HighDots Forums  

Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please.

Search Engine Optimization Discussion about SEO/Search Engine Optimization (alt.internet.search-engines)


Discuss Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. in the Search Engine Optimization forum.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old   
Lampspecs
 
Posts: n/a

Default Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 01:22 PM







I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.

My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11 in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]

I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability. I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

*Please PM me if you can help.*


--
Lampspecs



Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old   
Jezsta Web Productions
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 02:26 PM






"Lampspecs" <Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in
message news:Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au...
Quote:
I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.
Why the UK? <joke>Does the internet work differently there? I know for BB at
times it does.:-)</joke>

It shouldn't matter where the person is at.:-)

Quote:
My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11 in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]
It isn't a ban. You still have 25 pages(but not really indexed).
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...pecs%2eco%2euk
That means they know of the site but will probably not list the pages in the
index when a search query is made except for the very small niche SERPs and
probably not even them.

I know what the problem is. Did your site go into expired status? It
probably did since the PR is 0. Don't expect to see anything for about
another 2 months. It takes about 6 months for these sites which are kind of
on hold status. There is nothing you can do. While you are waiting just try
and gain more quality links. I have been through it myself. It is like
Google holds out to make sure this website won't change into something other
than what it was before. People buy previously owned domains and used them
for other things than what the website started off to be. So Google is just
giving the site some time to show it's true colors.:-)


Quote:
I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability.
There is no fixing ATM. I have several sites that were in the same case. I
can't prove right now that they were not shown in the index the first 6
months other than a couple of people I know know about it also. This is
something you are just going to have to wait for with your site.

Quote:
I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and I
don't want to make the same mistake again.
Don't blame you!

Stacey

--
Christmas Stuff - All Christmas all the time!
http://christmas-stuff.net
A New Focus In Web Marketing - Search Engine Optimization
http://jezsta.com




Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old   
T.J.
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 02:55 PM




"Lampspecs" <Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in
message news:Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au...
Quote:
I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.

My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11 in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]

I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability. I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

*Please PM me if you can help.*


Have a read of this
http://www.stephanspencer.com/archiv...n-session-ids/

T.J.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk




Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old   
Big Bill
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 03:07 PM



On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:22:59 -0500, Lampspecs
<Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote:

Quote:
I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.
You could be searching under seo uk, then, or seo services, or seo
consultant. Or Google consultant. Ho hum :-)

Quote:
My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11 in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]

I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability. I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

*Please PM me if you can help.*
Um... testimonials. Odd what people will believe in. Bye then!

BB


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old   
Lampspecs
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 03:59 PM




Jezsta Web Productions Wrote:
Quote:
There is no fixing ATM. I have several sites that were in the same
case. I
can't prove right now that they were not shown in the index the first
6
months other than a couple of people I know know about it also. This
is
something you are just going to have to wait for with your site.


I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and
I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

Don't blame you!

Stacey

--
Christmas Stuff - All Christmas all the time!
http://christmas-stuff.net
A New Focus In Web Marketing - Search Engine Optimization
http://jezsta.com
Dear Stacy,


Thanks for taking the trouble to reply it is appreciated. What does ATM
stand for?

I didn't buy this domain I registered it in about 1996, but it has just
been used as a testing site with no real content.

Mabee I am reading this wrongly, but Google was indexing my site and it
said so on th screen, but very slowley, I only had two pages indexed
until about two weeks ago when it went up to 12 n two days. then all of
a sudden I get the message sayingthat none of my pages are indexed. If I
follow the link "information for Webmasters" it explains Googles design
guidelines and invites me to submit a re-inclusuion request.

Consequently I read this as meaning that whilst it was indexing the
site and had reached the grand total of 12 pages it had decided not to
continue the process because it does not linke my content. Is this
assumung too much?

Why in the UK? Well because we are using Netsuite and the whole site is
generated by a series of customerisable templates. If there is a problem
and I believe that you think I am possibly being too impatient, then
fixing the site by a corespondence course as against 1/2 a day face to
face round the table did not seem like the best way to go.

The reason I wanted an expert is that I am not sure if the problem is
the code, design or the data content.


--
Lampspecs




Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old   
Mogga
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 05:27 PM



On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:22:59 -0500, Lampspecs
<Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote:

Quote:
I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.

My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11 in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]

I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability. I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

*Please PM me if you can help.*

Do you want to sell lamps?

You could use an affiliate scheme to pay a % of sales and get more
traffic and sales that way. You'd pay for results - which is what you
want to be doing even if you go the SEO route.



Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old   
Jezsta Web Productions
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 05:31 PM



"Lampspecs" <Lampspecs.2hujjt (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in
message news:Lampspecs.2hujjt (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au...
<snip>

Quote:
Dear Stacy,


Thanks for taking the trouble to reply it is appreciated. What does ATM
stand for?
You are welcome. ATM means "At the moment".

Quote:
I didn't buy this domain I registered it in about 1996, but it has just
been used as a testing site with no real content.
So a site doing not much of anything. Was it ever indexed with anything of
the testing stuff with links and PR? OK, I checked the archives and didn't
find anything.

Quote:
Mabee I am reading this wrongly, but Google was indexing my site and it
said so on th screen, but very slowley, I only had two pages indexed
until about two weeks ago when it went up to 12 n two days. then all of
a sudden I get the message sayingthat none of my pages are indexed. If I
follow the link "information for Webmasters" it explains Googles design
guidelines and invites me to submit a re-inclusuion request.
Well that Google Guidelines is given as a general follow through for
everything.:-)

Quote:
Consequently I read this as meaning that whilst it was indexing the
site and had reached the grand total of 12 pages it had decided not to
continue the process because it does not linke my content. Is this
assumung too much?
Could be. It might not be that also. Or it could also be that your pages are
having the bot going in a circle sort of speak like. Kind of hung and not
able to countinue through the site. I see TJ gave you a web page about
session IDs.

Your image if I recall showed that the bot was receiving 6 errors right?
Seems you might want to look into that.

Here : http://whois.domaintools.com/lampspecs.co.uk doesn't have any info
about the site. 4 months should be long enough to have info on it. And it
has nothing. I am finding that quite odd. Not even a title is listed.
http://whois.domaintools.com/christmas-stuff.net As you can see with my site
I registered it in Sept and it has plenty of info on it.

I see that most of your pages have gone supplemental. Not really good.
Meaning your whole site is to similar and won't get listed if it is in
supplemental status on the pages. Supplemental pages mean it is reading as
too similar with other pages that Google has cached for your site.

From really looking at the pages that Google knows about it is skipping
through and picking out pages on it's own. Is there any reason to not list
some pages statically? I mean do all the pages have to be with session IDs?
Why not have some static pages? At least for your main pages, your sub's can
be done with is this fashion as they can be less important.

I ran a couple of your pages through spider simulators here
http://oy-oy.eu/page/spider/. And the one I use a lot which is quite
useful - http://www.ranks.nl/tools/spider.html . The ranks.nl didn't like
very many of your pages. They seem to be to large even though they don't
appear to be that large from the human eye. The other site has various
spider simulators on it.

Your session id's are pretty long
/About;jsessionid=ac112b2a1f43ccfd43c8e2834be2a73db 95fc3f4169f.e3eSbNyQc3mLe34SchuRbNeTaN90n6jAmljGr5 XDqQLvpAe

I then ran the W3C Validate and well there were quite a few errors on it.
Too many for me to go through and see if one of them is a serious problem
that is stopping the bot from reading and crawling each link.

Quote:
Why in the UK? Well because we are using Netsuite and the whole site is
generated by a series of customerisable templates. If there is a problem
and I believe that you think I am possibly being too impatient, then
fixing the site by a corespondence course as against 1/2 a day face to
face round the table did not seem like the best way to go.
Oh, OK. Maybe you should try some other type of program to generate your
site. I feel that can be a problem also.


Quote:
The reason I wanted an expert is that I am not sure if the problem is
the code, design or the data content.
Could be everything involved. Sorry, about no good news. But there is
something wrong with the site and the way it is generated. My advice and you
are not going to enjoy hearing this. But to rebuild it with some static
pages for your main pages at least and try to find another type program to
generate your pages for you on the fly.

Also you don't have any headings that I seen on the pages or decent alt text
for the images(you have the image name like bulb.gif). They should have like
"Yellow GE" 100 Watt Soft Light Bulb".

Stacey
--
Christmas Stuff - All Christmas all the time!
http://christmas-stuff.net
A New Focus In Web Marketing - Search Engine Optimization
http://jezsta.com




Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old   
Lampspecs
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 08:54 PM




Once again Stacy, I would like to thank you for you help. I am amazed to
the the session ID's when I use the http://oy-oy.eu/page/spider I do not
see these when I use a browser.

I am reluctant to abandon Netsuite as the Netsuite system doesn't just
generate the we pages it is our whole stock-control/accounts/CRM rolled
into one and it has been quite an expensive investment. The investment
in time is far more than the cash cost (Over $10,000) it has taken two
people more than 4 months of working 7 days a weeks to get this far. I
would rahter fix the site than abandon it.


--
Lampspecs



Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old   
Jezsta Web Productions
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 09:14 PM



"Lampspecs" <Lampspecs.2huxae (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in
message news:Lampspecs.2huxae (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.yourdomain.com.au...
Quote:
Once again Stacy, I would like to thank you for you help. I am amazed to
the the session ID's when I use the http://oy-oy.eu/page/spider I do not
see these when I use a browser.
No problem.:-)

Quote:
I am reluctant to abandon Netsuite as the Netsuite system doesn't just
generate the we pages it is our whole stock-control/accounts/CRM rolled
into one and it has been quite an expensive investment. The investment
in time is far more than the cash cost (Over $10,000) it has taken two
people more than 4 months of working 7 days a weeks to get this far. I
would rahter fix the site than abandon it.
I can understand the hard work that is involved of putting sites together
with products.:-) I am doing that all the time.

Then maybe you could follow my other suggestion of making the main pages
static and have the products load later from the links from the main pages.
I think this would help you site gain better exposure and try to do those
other little bits I told you about. I think you can create a good template
with headings and such then let the program load the products. Or it should
work that way.

Stacey
--
Christmas Stuff - All Christmas all the time!
http://christmas-stuff.net
A New Focus In Web Marketing - Search Engine Optimization
http://jezsta.com




Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old   
Lampspecs
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Site banned by Google- reccomend an SEO expert please. - 11-25-2006 , 09:19 PM




Big Bill Wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:22:59 -0500, Lampspecs
Lampspecs.2hudvo (AT) no-mx (DOT) fo...rdomain.com.au> wrote:


I need to find an SEO expert in the UK who can look at my site and
fix
whatever is wrong so that it is fully indexed. Getting a good rank
would be nice, but a listing is really the first step.

You could be searching under seo uk, then, or seo services, or seo
consultant. Or Google consultant. Ho hum :-)

My domain www.lampspecs.co.uk is old but the site is only 4 months
old. The site has over 3000 pages and has about 100 indexed by MSN,
this has been static for the past two months. We have 700 pages index
by Yahoo and that has fallen from 1300 in the last week. We have 11
in
Google.com and 3 on Google.co.uk for now... BUT Google is in the
process of removing my site from its listings. On the day that it
said
that my site was being removed it briefly listed 25 pages for about
an
hour.

[image: http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/files/banned.gif]

I am looking for a recommendation for an SEO expert who can fix this
site an provide a list of sites/testomonials to prove their ability.
I
have spent a lot of money on optimisation in the past to no avail and
I
don't want to make the same mistake again.

*Please PM me if you can help.*

Um... testimonials. Odd what people will believe in. Bye then!

BB
I don't really understand this reply. I can find lots of people who
claim to be able to help all of whom would be happy to charge me fees,
but that is not enough. I want to appoint someone with some degree of
certainty that they know what they are doing and are going to get some
results.

So I have asked for a recommendation, what else am I supposed to do. I
have reached the limit of my knowledge trying to fix this site and I
have run out of patience. Peoples livelihoods depend on making this
site work so I have to find a solution.


--
Lampspecs




Reply With Quote
Reply




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.