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Shall I Trust This Offer?
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Shall I Trust This Offer? -
04-16-2005
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| http://www.webmasterresources.us/dir/349/1.php Here is the links info please add and confirm. Title: Sybex Description: Sybex Inc. publishes computer books, certification training guides and othertechnical manuals for the computer industry. Sybex specializes in study guides for Microsoft, Cisco and Novell certification and graphics books for Adobe Photoshop and Maya URL: http://www.sybex.com |
<DIV CLASS="pages_page_title"><A
HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'"
ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true"
ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true"
ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A></DIV>
<DIV CLASS="pages_page_description">Internet Filter - Control, Monitor
Internet Access At Work. Easy. Effective. Block inappropriate
content. For computer network at work, school, library</DIV>
<DIV CLASS="pages_page_url">http://www.2watch.com/</DIV>
</DIV>
The important part is this-
<A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'"
ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true"
ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true"
ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A>
It's a javascript link which means Google etc... won't see it as a
backlink in this case to http://www.2watch.com/
I used to use this type of code (a better version than this one) to
hide affiliate links from search engines (now use rel="nofollow") and
have even posted the use of '+' within the ht'+'tp to make sure the
search engines won't understand this as a link (just in case they ever
read javascript).
If they add a link like this to your site (I didn't see your URL on
that page?) it will not count as a backlink.
Seems to me to be a way to pull in link partners at no cost. If
someone did this to me I wouldn't trust them with anything else since
it is a con.
You know it's a con and not a mistake because they use
ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' so when you
hover over the link the URL shows in the bottom left status bar of the
window. They do this to make it look like a real link, if they didn't
with the above code it would look something like
javascript:location='http://www.2watch.com/ in the status bar (like
you see with javascript links) which would immediately alert you to
the con.
a quick way to check for links like these is a right click open in new
window. Or right click copy shortcut and paste it somewhere, you'll
find with each the link looks like-
javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'
And not
http://www.2watch.com
As it should be.
David
--
Free Search Engine Optimization Tutorial
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:43:24 GMT, "Mark Shell" markashell (AT) REMOVETHISearthlink (DOT) net> wrote: http://www.webmasterresources.us/dir/349/1.php Here is the links info please add and confirm. Title: Sybex Description: Sybex Inc. publishes computer books, certification training guides and othertechnical manuals for the computer industry. Sybex specializes in study guides for Microsoft, Cisco and Novell certification and graphics books for Adobe Photoshop and Maya URL: http://www.sybex.com If you view source for the page above you'll find this- DIV CLASS="pages_page_title"><A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A></DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_description">Internet Filter - Control, Monitor Internet Access At Work. Easy. Effective. Block inappropriate content. For computer network at work, school, library</DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_url">http://www.2watch.com/</DIV /DIV The important part is this- A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A It's a javascript link which means Google etc... won't see it as a backlink in this case to http://www.2watch.com/ I used to use this type of code (a better version than this one) to hide affiliate links from search engines (now use rel="nofollow") and have even posted the use of '+' within the ht'+'tp to make sure the search engines won't understand this as a link (just in case they ever read javascript). If they add a link like this to your site (I didn't see your URL on that page?) it will not count as a backlink. Seems to me to be a way to pull in link partners at no cost. If someone did this to me I wouldn't trust them with anything else since it is a con. You know it's a con and not a mistake because they use ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' so when you hover over the link the URL shows in the bottom left status bar of the window. They do this to make it look like a real link, if they didn't with the above code it would look something like javascript:location='http://www.2watch.com/ in the status bar (like you see with javascript links) which would immediately alert you to the con. a quick way to check for links like these is a right click open in new window. Or right click copy shortcut and paste it somewhere, you'll find with each the link looks like- javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' And not http://www.2watch.com As it should be. David |
Sorry,
It's nothing more than marketing of their services. Here is the
important thing that i wanna share with you - You should focus your
energy on acquiring a smaller number of links from websites whose
theme is similar to yours. This will improve your ranking in the
search engines and as you know links are very important part of any
search engine optimization endeavour.
Pramod
http://www.do-it-yourself-search-eng...timization.com
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SEO Dave <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:<vk2261pqpca937nh684ksbdmcl2u9ilnqu (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>... On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:43:24 GMT, "Mark Shell" markashell (AT) REMOVETHISearthlink (DOT) net> wrote: http://www.webmasterresources.us/dir/349/1.php Here is the links info please add and confirm. Title: Sybex Description: Sybex Inc. publishes computer books, certification training guides and othertechnical manuals for the computer industry. Sybex specializes in study guides for Microsoft, Cisco and Novell certification and graphics books for Adobe Photoshop and Maya URL: http://www.sybex.com If you view source for the page above you'll find this- DIV CLASS="pages_page_title"><A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A></DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_description">Internet Filter - Control, Monitor Internet Access At Work. Easy. Effective. Block inappropriate content. For computer network at work, school, library</DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_url">http://www.2watch.com/</DIV /DIV The important part is this- A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A It's a javascript link which means Google etc... won't see it as a backlink in this case to http://www.2watch.com/ I used to use this type of code (a better version than this one) to hide affiliate links from search engines (now use rel="nofollow") and have even posted the use of '+' within the ht'+'tp to make sure the search engines won't understand this as a link (just in case they ever read javascript). If they add a link like this to your site (I didn't see your URL on that page?) it will not count as a backlink. Seems to me to be a way to pull in link partners at no cost. If someone did this to me I wouldn't trust them with anything else since it is a con. You know it's a con and not a mistake because they use ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' so when you hover over the link the URL shows in the bottom left status bar of the window. They do this to make it look like a real link, if they didn't with the above code it would look something like javascript:location='http://www.2watch.com/ in the status bar (like you see with javascript links) which would immediately alert you to the con. a quick way to check for links like these is a right click open in new window. Or right click copy shortcut and paste it somewhere, you'll find with each the link looks like- javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' And not http://www.2watch.com As it should be. David Sorry, It's nothing more than marketing of their services. Here is the important thing that i wanna share with you - You should focus your energy on acquiring a smaller number of links from websites whose theme is similar to yours. This will improve your ranking in the search engines and as you know links are very important part of any search engine optimization endeavour. |
think you need some...is that why you have answered alot of the questions
all at once. NG's sig of course isn't as great as real links from sites.
Also, you should learn how to make a correct sig. Plus, since your site is
new it looks kind of bad with the grey PR and some people will be put off
from that and not want to spend $25 to get the info.
Stacey
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| "Pramod" <diyseo (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b1d04359.0504170958.efe7051 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... SEO Dave <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:<vk2261pqpca937nh684ksbdmcl2u9ilnqu (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>... On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:43:24 GMT, "Mark Shell" markashell (AT) REMOVETHISearthlink (DOT) net> wrote: http://www.webmasterresources.us/dir/349/1.php Here is the links info please add and confirm. Title: Sybex Description: Sybex Inc. publishes computer books, certification training guides and othertechnical manuals for the computer industry. Sybex specializes in study guides for Microsoft, Cisco and Novell certification and graphics books for Adobe Photoshop and Maya URL: http://www.sybex.com If you view source for the page above you'll find this- DIV CLASS="pages_page_title"><A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A></DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_description">Internet Filter - Control, Monitor Internet Access At Work. Easy. Effective. Block inappropriate content. For computer network at work, school, library</DIV DIV CLASS="pages_page_url">http://www.2watch.com/</DIV /DIV The important part is this- A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/'; return true" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">Internet Filter</A It's a javascript link which means Google etc... won't see it as a backlink in this case to http://www.2watch.com/ I used to use this type of code (a better version than this one) to hide affiliate links from search engines (now use rel="nofollow") and have even posted the use of '+' within the ht'+'tp to make sure the search engines won't understand this as a link (just in case they ever read javascript). If they add a link like this to your site (I didn't see your URL on that page?) it will not count as a backlink. Seems to me to be a way to pull in link partners at no cost. If someone did this to me I wouldn't trust them with anything else since it is a con. You know it's a con and not a mistake because they use ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' so when you hover over the link the URL shows in the bottom left status bar of the window. They do this to make it look like a real link, if they didn't with the above code it would look something like javascript:location='http://www.2watch.com/ in the status bar (like you see with javascript links) which would immediately alert you to the con. a quick way to check for links like these is a right click open in new window. Or right click copy shortcut and paste it somewhere, you'll find with each the link looks like- javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.2watch.com/' And not http://www.2watch.com As it should be. David Sorry, It's nothing more than marketing of their services. Here is the important thing that i wanna share with you - You should focus your energy on acquiring a smaller number of links from websites whose theme is similar to yours. This will improve your ranking in the search engines and as you know links are very important part of any search engine optimization endeavour. Of course after someone already stated so. Yes, a person needs links, I think you need some...is that why you have answered alot of the questions all at once. NG's sig of course isn't as great as real links from sites. |
those links [shared in the posts and/or as sigs] count for naught in
99.5% of the mirror sites as the site owenrs fix the links to not
count as backlinks. So no benefit there either in terms of backlinks,
and in terms of Google, PR thoughts.
Personally I think the 'going back a week to answer a bunch of posts
in an hour or less to share the same URL" and switching off between
the two promo thoughts ['learn more about SEO at my site" and 'for
only $25'] is hinting the site is fairly new and the site owner being
a tad over-enthusiastic on "getting the word out" about it.
Given that it is hard to read the main page of it - may not get many
people 'signing up' as I imagine the inner pages, in the paid for
section, may be equally difficult to read. I mean why pay for benefit
of reading a tutorial if you can't even read the first page of the
site? This is not taking into consideration some of the 'answers'
shared here in response to posts.
I imagine that today we will be seeing Pramod sharing spiel posts in
response to older posts that date back to the beginning of April.
He's about halfway there now ...
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Also, you should learn how to make a correct sig. |
You missed an opportunity to say you could share with him how to do
that "for only $25" ... or perhaps by sharing an URL to your site with
a page about it? LOL!
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Plus, since your site is
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new it looks kind of bad with the grey PR and some people will be put off from that and not want to spend $25 to get the info. |
folks who 'don't know about SEO' though ... so they may not know about
gray PR displays.
Carol
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Sorry, |
to suggest you are an SEO expert when you clearly don't have a clue.
Would you go away and bother another NG if I sent your $25?
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It's nothing more than marketing of their services. |
reading/understanding them just to try to persuade people to waste $25
for access to your site.
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Here is the important thing that i wanna share with you - You should focus your energy on acquiring a smaller number of links from websites whose theme is similar to yours. This will improve your ranking in the search engines and as you know links are very important part of any search engine optimization endeavour. |
this NG in your URL? Do you not realize these posts are mirrored on
loads of web sites that will not be themed with your site?
You've suggested in other posts unrelated links will result in a
penalty, so your site should now get a penalty right.
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Pramod |
it's free :-)
David
--
Free Search Engine Optimization Tutorial
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
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On 17 Apr 2005 10:58:01 -0700, diyseo (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com (Pramod) wrote: [snip] |
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Here is the important thing that i wanna share with you - You should focus your energy on acquiring a smaller number of links from websites whose theme is similar to yours. This will improve your ranking in the search engines and as you know links are very important part of any search engine optimization endeavour. Lets just for one minute assume you are right. Why are you smothering this NG in your URL? Do you not realize these posts are mirrored on loads of web sites that will not be themed with your site? |
couple of folks paying for temporary access to my tutorial ... but I
can get some backlinks courtesy of posting umpteen times too!" without
considering many of the mirror sites tweaked their set-ups to not have
any PR flow to the links shared in posts and/or signature lines [so
not show up as a backlink on Google either]. So alll the URL sharing
is kind of pointless - which is why I get a chuckle out of another
person cross-posting here just to share their URLs due to this group
being mirrored.
Recall how long it took Damian to cease posting to promote his site
once noticing how the mirroring was backfiring for his site[s]? And
that was before 'themed links' started to move to the front burner
thoughts with many people.
I bet some of those mirror sites have backed it up with using
rel="nofollow" to help on Yahoo and MSN ignoring those 'mirrored
copies' URLs shared 'counting in some way'. So won't be helpful on
those SEs either.
Carol
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THE FOLLOING IS WHAT I RECEIVED BY E-MAIL. SHALL I TRUST THIS? YOUR OPINION PLEASE. ================================================ We are a Text Links building company with hundreds of clients that are looking for Links. While browsing on the internet, I found your site. I think it fits our criteria for exchanging links, so if you want FREE RELEVANT TEXT LINKs from high ranking and authority sites then please reply back and we'll add you in our database and would give you many relevant links each month totally FREE OF CHARGE. We offer One Way Text Links as well as Reciprocal Links, so the links we provide you could be from either way. Please reply back if you have any questions. To start with I am already giving you a link from a High Ranking Directory. http://www.webmasterresources.us/dir/349/1.php Here is the links info please add and confirm. Title: Sybex Description: Sybex Inc. publishes computer books, certification training guides and othertechnical manuals for the computer industry. Sybex specializes in study guides for Microsoft, Cisco and Novell certification and graphics books for Adobe Photoshop and Maya URL: http://www.sybex.com Please keep in mind that this is not the only link exchange we are offering, you'll get many links each month from different sites from different IPs and different PR. So even if you dont want to trade links from this site, we could always provide you more, so if you are interested in future link partnerships, please reply to this mail with the following information about your site: Title: Description: URL: PR of Homepage: PR of Links Page: Category: Hope to receive a good response from your side. Regards, ================================================ |
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