Is Microsoft trying to kill Firefox?

I noticed that in a newer version of Firefox (1.5.0.7 for Mac OS X)
there is an auto popup that comes up with old text that I have written
in text input fields. That's not a very good thing. Suppose I have been
porn surfing or written other things that I don't want other people or
competitors to see; do you think I want that text to pop up? Not
really.

Also, the Javascript window in Firefox now shows errors for virtually
every site I visit. Maybe it's because the sites are not properly
designed, or maybe Firefox displays things that really should only be
warnings as errors.

Third, I have noticed major sites beginning to move into only Internet
Explorer content, such as MSN Live Video Beta and AOL Video. Some such
sites may work in Firefox for Windows with an ActiveX plugin, but I
doubt that such plugin will ever be safe, functional and frequently
updated enough to really make it work and keep up with the ActiveX in
Internet Explorer.

My conspiracy theory is that Microsoft has infiltrated the Firefox
developer community to confuse it and mess it up, while at the same
time pushing for Internet Explorer to be the only browser being able to
view new content on the web - such as videos and interactive web sites
- in a complete way.

al.

"Anders" <anders_lindman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

My conspiracy theory is that Microsoft has infiltrated the Firefox
developer community to confuse it and mess it up, while at the same
time pushing for Internet Explorer to be the only browser being able to
view new content on the web - such as videos and interactive web sites
- in a complete way.

OMG! First of all, you really think this (ais-e) is the right place for
conspiracy theories?

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On 17 Sep 2006 05:39:33 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

"Anders" <anders_lindman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

My conspiracy theory is that Microsoft has infiltrated the Firefox
developer community to confuse it and mess it up, while at the same
time pushing for Internet Explorer to be the only browser being able to
view new content on the web - such as videos and interactive web sites
- in a complete way.

OMG! First of all, you really think this (ais-e) is the right place for
conspiracy theories?

Maybe it's a plot!

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On 17 Sep 2006 05:39:33 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

"Anders" <anders_lindman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

My conspiracy theory is that Microsoft has infiltrated the Firefox
developer community to confuse it and mess it up, while at the same
time pushing for Internet Explorer to be the only browser being able to
view new content on the web - such as videos and interactive web sites
- in a complete way.

Corruption of standards is nothing new. In fact, even as IE7 is being
developed, one of the developers confesses that management involves
"unethical shitheads", as he calls them, who deliberately design the browser
in a way that will stifle competition, by deliberatelynot obeying or
'extending' standards. This makes parts of e Web compatible with only one
platform and one Web browser. Atlas is rumoured to develop this hypothesis
further, being no exception to ActiveX controls.

OMG! First of all, you really think this (ais-e) is the right place for
conspiracy theories?

Maybe it's a plot!

Well, since I've already bitten the bait, I might as well point out that
Microsoft delivers IE7 to all Windows XP users as a high priority 'security'
update. To many, this is clearly a case of anti-competitive practices. But
what /else/ is new under the sun?

As as for Mozilla's involvements with Microsoft, the development focus is
shifted /away/ from other platforms, whose platform-specific bugs and
patches are neglected.

Best wishes,

Roy

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John Bokma wrote:

"Anders" <anders_lindman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

My conspiracy theory is that Microsoft has infiltrated the Firefox
developer community to confuse it and mess it up, while at the same
time pushing for Internet Explorer to be the only browser being able to
view new content on the web - such as videos and interactive web sites
- in a complete way.

OMG! First of all, you really think this (ais-e) is the right place for
conspiracy theories?

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The conspiracy bit was a bit speculative I must admit. And probably the
Microsoft managers don't want total browser monopoly. Having
competitors is good even for them, at least in the long run. Browser
technology hasn't matured enough yet to form a fully functional
standard, so I think it is good that Microsoft is pushing it a bit.

al.

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Well, since I've already bitten the bait, I might as well point out

that the OP was about Firefox being corrupted by Microsoft, and not an
anti-IE7 soapbox?

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"Anders" <anders_lindman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

The conspiracy bit was a bit speculative I must admit.

Yes, and that's called FUD. What always amazes me is that OSS zealots have
no problem at all with spreading FUD. I mean, some of them can teach MS a
lesson or two.

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Anders wrote:

I noticed that in a newer version of Firefox (1.5.0.7 for Mac OS X)
there is an auto popup that comes up with old text that I have written
in text input fields. That's not a very good thing. Suppose I have been
porn surfing or written other things that I don't want other people or
competitors to see; do you think I want that text to pop up? Not
really.

You can fix that in your privacy settings.

Third, I have noticed major sites beginning to move into only Internet
Explorer content, such as MSN Live Video Beta and AOL Video.

Microsoft have sometimes added JavaScript to their sites to break
functionality in Firefox. Don't use Microsoft tools, web sites, services,
and software, and encourage other people to avoid MS also.

z wrote:

Anders wrote:

I noticed that in a newer version of Firefox (1.5.0.7 for Mac OS X)
there is an auto popup that comes up with old text that I have written
in text input fields. That's not a very good thing. Suppose I have been
porn surfing or written other things that I don't want other people or
competitors to see; do you think I want that text to pop up? Not
really.

You can fix that in your privacy settings.

But what happens when someone switches the setting back again? When I
installed the new Firefox version, very old texts from the PREVIOUS
version popped up.

Third, I have noticed major sites beginning to move into only Internet
Explorer content, such as MSN Live Video Beta and AOL Video.

Microsoft have sometimes added JavaScript to their sites to break
functionality in Firefox. Don't use Microsoft tools, web sites, services,
and software, and encourage other people to avoid MS also.

I use Microsoft software for the desktop, but seldom for development.
Java + Eclipse is my choice.

al.

z wrote:

Microsoft have sometimes added JavaScript to their sites to break
functionality in Firefox. Don't use Microsoft tools, web sites, services,
and software, and encourage other people to avoid MS also.

If you have ever taken any MS certified classes, you are familiar with
the phrase "the microsoft way". MS was founded on the theft and
reverse engineering of a Macintosh. MS has to steal and deceive in
order to survive; that is their "way". If you work for MS, they will
teach you in the training how to lie, cheat, and steal in order to
survive as an inferior product. They were fined by the US Supreme
court for using their w95 monopoly power to rip-off their customers;
when w98 released with the same issues they were stating that they
don't care if it is illegal because they can make more money by
screwing their clients than it will cost them in fines. MS was ordered
to compensate my state's university something like $75 million dollars
for overcharging them for products.

Microsoft products are anti-productive and barely work with their
sixty-billion bug complex. I've seen some of the new improvements for
this vista crap that they say is coming soon - the new vista features
are the same tools that I have been using for years on my Mac (only
reverse engineered in a code that they don't want you to see because it
is bug-ridden).

Although I have been using ms word for grammar checking, excel for
spreadsheets, and IE to check browser compatability - these are the
only three programs that can actually crash my system (not a
coincidence that they are all inferior microcrap products).

How long will it take before windows users realize that maintenance
isn't supposed to consume 20% of your work day? How long before they
realize that there is an easier to use and more powerful parallel
universe on Macs that hasn't been infected by millions of viruses and
spyware? How long until they realize that MS is spyware that has been
spread like a virus?

The solution is simple: don't use windows, don't use microsoft
crapware.

Eventually the process of natural selection will devour their entire
company as people realize that MS is actually just a group of cheating
thieves, that MS products aren't worth the time that it takes to
maintain them, and that there are other products available that are
more stable, have more features, and are open-sourced so you can be
assured that you don't have a can of worms co-existing with your
precious files.

Microsoft knows they are looking at the "blue screen of death" and they
are scared like a rat in a cage.