SEO Services Scraper?

Not so long ago, somebody introduced his/her own tool in this group. URL is
below (remove spaces!)

http://page-rank-pred ictor.3d.net/page-rank-predictor.html

I now doscover that oddly enough, I get many referrals from

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction

whenever the former gets used. Both sites have similar features but one
resides on hostdime.com and the other on Electric Lightwave Inc. What I
suspect is that the first among these scrapes content from the other. It
also uses nasty DHTML and pop-ups, which intrude the interface as badly as
can be. The results are bare-bone HTML. Unless both domains are owned by
the same person (I have not checked whois.net), I suggest that the former
of these tools gets ignored altogether.

It has just occurred to me that its 3d.net Webspace allocator does not help
in establishing any credentials either. Looking at the source, I can now
see the following:

<form method="post" action="
http://tool.iwebtool.com/tools/pagerank_prediction/pagerank_prediction.php"
target="pageframe">


Roy

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

Not so long ago, somebody introduced his/her own tool in this group. URL
is
below (remove spaces!)

http://page-rank-pred ictor.3d.net/page-rank-predictor.html

I now doscover that oddly enough, I get many referrals from

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction

whenever the former gets used. Both sites have similar features but one
resides on hostdime.com and the other on Electric Lightwave Inc. What I
suspect is that the first among these scrapes content from the other. It
also uses nasty DHTML and pop-ups, which intrude the interface as badly as
can be. The results are bare-bone HTML. Unless both domains are owned by
the same person (I have not checked whois.net), I suggest that the former
of these tools gets ignored altogether.

It has just occurred to me that its 3d.net Webspace allocator does not
help
in establishing any credentials either. Looking at the source, I can now
see the following:

form method="post" action="
http://tool.iwebtool.com/tools/pagerank_prediction/pagerank_prediction.php"
target="pageframe"


Roy

I guess you know who to blame for that one huh? And I don't think it was a
great prediction either.:-)

Stacey

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

form method="post" action="
http://tool.iwebtool.com/tools/pager...ank_prediction.
php" target="pageframe"

Yup, and they use an outdated call to Google Toolbar, so the info is
probably wrong (on purpose) and less then useful.

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__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 12 September 2005 20:02 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

form method="post" action="
http://tool.iwebtool.com/tools/pager...ank_prediction.
php" target="pageframe"

Yup, and they use an outdated call to Google Toolbar, so the info is
probably wrong (on purpose) and less then useful.

This reminds me to ask: are your Perl scripts working again?


__/ [Euro Stacey] added on Monday 12 September 2005 19:19 \__

I guess you know who to blame for that one huh? And I don't think it was a
great prediction either.:-)

Stacey

The predictions suggested that there would merely be any changes. Even a
paper effigy of Larry Page can make a prediction as 'safe' as that.

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 12 September 2005 20:02 \__

Yup, and they use an outdated call to Google Toolbar, so the info is
probably wrong (on purpose) and less then useful.

This reminds me to ask: are your Perl scripts working again?

prog.pl? Yes. Sometimes a glitch seems to happen and it reports that it
can't determine the PageRank. Have to look into a better error reporting
(or a retry, since a retry often does give a report).

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__/ [John Bokma] on Tuesday 13 September 2005 05:51 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 12 September 2005 20:02 \__

Yup, and they use an outdated call to Google Toolbar, so the info is
probably wrong (on purpose) and less then useful.

This reminds me to ask: are your Perl scripts working again?

prog.pl? Yes. Sometimes a glitch seems to happen and it reports that it
can't determine the PageRank. Have to look into a better error reporting
(or a retry, since a retry often does give a report).

Great! It seems to work fine now. I overwrote the existing version that I
had of prog.pl, just in case. Whether it was different of not, I doubt it.
Your timestamp indicated it was last edited in June.

For the time being, I disabled the Google cron job. It would not be wise to
upset them and my IP addresses are fixed too.

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

For the time being, I disabled the Google cron job. It would not be
wise to upset them and my IP addresses are fixed too.

prog doesn't use Google directly :-) And I think that the site it scrapes
does use some tricks to "hide" itself from Google. OTOH, they might block
your IP :-)

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On 13 Sep 2005 13:11:39 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

For the time being, I disabled the Google cron job. It would not be
wise to upset them and my IP addresses are fixed too.

prog doesn't use Google directly :-) And I think that the site it scrapes
does use some tricks to "hide" itself from Google. OTOH, they might block
your IP :-)

Apparently they're already blocking Mirago.com and Thunderstone, who
are developing a serious rival engine. Dirty Pool. It looks like it'll
backfire as without the publicity a lot of folk wouldn't have heard f
Thunderstone for some time.
Be interesting if they start banning all mention of sites that use
Thunderstone technology.

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