SEO lies was Re: Looking For Links

"canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

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Hmm, Fred you are an expert you should know about proper posting. What are
you quoting to? You have done it many times in this thread. Losing all forms
of professionalism(that's right you say you aren't), etiquette, and shown
your true colors.:-)

Did everyone see Jez's thing for Fred showing his true colors. LOL.

"Not really wishing to paraphrase Cyndi Lauper, but, I think we can all
see your true colours shining through!

Is it time for your rest yet?

http://www.hitfix.co.uk/blog/index.p...n-white-coats/ "

Made me laugh!

Here, I did the most logical thing to do. I went back to the beginning.
I went to http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp to check
domain information.

It would be logical thing to do, but logic is also that the owner can change
the register.

I ran www.canadawilds.com/ first ( this was going
to grow to become a Canadian wilderness vacation search engine down the
road a couple of years from now, it would have been something really
special ) and I did www.canada-bear-hunting.com ( well, you know how
much I love being in the bush and stuff, I enjoy the bear hunts alot, I
don't hunt myself but like to bait bears and drag the wounded ones
outa' the bush at night, that is fun! ), both don't seem to have my
name on either of them. I assume the rest will be the same.

Fred you aren't much of an Expert if you don't know a person can actually
check the history of the domain. You changed it on the 10th. When I posted
this link
http://whois.domaintools.com/canadawilds.com at the time I posted all those
domains they were in your name. Which is why I posted the link to the
domaintools.com. If anyone had a chance to look they would have seen.

If you look at the link now you will see that there are 4 records in the
history for canadawilds. You can not see the history as you have to become a
paid member to have full use of the tools. Which I feel are good and for I
think $15.95 it is a good investment.

You changed the name in the history on the tenth. I have taken screen shots
for those of you who don't want to join domaintools. I did not lie against
Fred. I was being truthful. But Fred doesn't stop building this huge hole he
has for himself. They can be seen here at http://jezsta.com/seo-lies.htm .

I only list the 2 domains that he is listed above. If you want proof for the
other I will be glad to show it.

Please
check them for me, sorta' do a little secretarial work as a consolation
prize for playing it out as hard as I can. I play to win.

Well you lost this one Fred. I can search history, IP blacklist, everything.

No such thing
as a good silver place. I am not the type to fall apart at challenges,

You don't fall a part Fred?? You have been a mess in this thread.

especially those directed at my honour. Folks in my neck of the woods
don't raise kids to be the sissy type. Doesn't help for the survival
skills needed to be the outdoorsy kind. lot of men here work in the
gold mines and forestry industries, pretty rowdy crowds on a Sudbury
Saturday Night ( by Stompin ' Tom Connors ).

Your honor and integrity is tarnished once more with your lies and deceit.

Anyway, I lost these two web sites because of a terrible terrible
dispute with the web site owners which can never be rectified. it
wasn't about money or anything like that, it was a conflict of wills
let's say.

Boy you can go on with your lies and deceit.

I wish I could have it all back and do it again but I have
to move on to other stuff. Find some other stuff. Promote myself more
so as to get some more stuff to work on. You can check the other web
sites yourself if you want, they are all belonging to persons other
than me. This whole package was gonna' be a Canadian tourism machine to
reckon' with. Just was starting to develop it.

I checked them all. They all have history records keep with your name on
them Fred.

So, the domains are clearly not mine. Please get yourself a new domain
lookup tool.

I don't need one, the one I use is fine works just fine.

Does this suffice for you and your squad of fame seeking bandits? The
domains that you have been using against me are not mine. I started a
project and it was shut down after four months.

Not for me because now you continue to lie. You can no longer be trusted for
anything. You are not ethical enough to even wipe off Sam's boots. (Sam I
know you will like this and see it as good humor)

It was no secret then
and it is not a secret now. I can't develop those projects any further
in their unique and collective directions that I was heading.
Evolution. It is beyond my control to continue in its web site
promotion and developmental plan. Is this enough to shut you up and
leave me alone?

The secret is out that you are not as ethical as you say you are. That is
all I was setting out to do. Battle one that likes to go into battle for
ethics. This was for all those SEO's who really are ethical. Bill, I think
my be the only true ethical one here maybe at times.

You have attempted to discredit me with various types of assaults both
almost sensible and some down right fabricated.

Nope they were true Fred. Nice try. I can get history on all types of sites
even the one that got blacklisted by spamhaus that you owned.

You have perpetuated
your assaults against my integrity and my honour across various places
on the Internet

Various places who in the heck are you trying to kid. Only here.

and you have done so visciously and relentlessly.

To bring out truth.

I have defended my honour every step of the way along your endless
defamation of my ethics and character assassinations.
It is with my integrity and dignity in tact, like a shining knight in a
very dark world,

You did not keep any dignity or ethics with the way you acted in this
thread. And you are still a liar.

I deem you unworthy of being in the business of SEO,

Sorry, Fred but as everyone can see that you are the liar. A good SEO knows
how to gain the proper tools and do research.

you and all your conspirators and whoever the hell else is on your side
can kiss my Canadian ass. pfft.

Wow, what kind of dignity is that?

Stacey
--
Crafts - Directory - Your Online Crafting Source
http://www.ecraftsonline.net/
A New Focus In Web Marketing - Search Engine Optimization
http://jezsta.com

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

you are an asshole

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

http://www.hitfix.co.uk/blog/index.p...n-white-coats/ "

Domain name:
hitfix.co.uk

Registrant:
Jeremy Day

So who you draggin' into this now?

On 10 Aug 2006 20:41:19 -0700, "canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

http://www.hitfix.co.uk/blog/index.p...n-white-coats/ "

Domain name:
hitfix.co.uk

Registrant:
Jeremy Day

So who you draggin' into this now?

That's Jez, of Jez and Stacey. Jez is a guy not a girl, which maybe
you didn't get because I guess you didn't realise that Jez is a boy's
name here and is an abbreviation of Jeremy (my next-door neighbour is
called Jez, for instance, by coincidence - mind you, he is a girl,
though, and a big one at that), and he lives up the road, more or
less, from me here in the UK.

BB
--
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/mar...e-pictures.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-maintenance.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/artis...una-glass.html

Big Bill wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up. That's usually what experienced SEOs do
around here, clear things up. Not pretty sometimes, but in good spirit.

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

<repeated from another thread in case you missed it>

To the conspirators:

Well you lil' shit-for-brains are in for a surprise.

You want to judge me, let you now be judged.

http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b.../fact-fabricat...



Remember you three SEO sunsabitches' wannabees, the Stacey - Jeremy -
David you buncha' SEO arsewipes in training, whenever one of you opens
your mouth, you all open your mouth.


Write the apology letters! You take your public whippings from your
peers. Then, maybe after a long long time, then maybe if you behave
yourselves long else I may change my judgement of you from being of the

most vile rotten cheating blackmailing shitty kind of SEO to being a
reforming one.

You wanna' publicly humiliate me, you are
going to publicly apologize. How far will my stance be to fight you go
is
entirely within your control. How long you want to cripple your budding

young careers in this industry depends entirely on your collective
stubbornness.

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

Fred you aren't much of an Expert if you don't know a person can actually
check the history of the domain. You changed it on the 10th. When I posted
this link
http://whois.domaintools.com/canadawilds.com at the time I posted all those
domains they were in your name. Which is why I posted the link to the
domaintools.com. If anyone had a chance to look they would have seen.

there have never been any errors in any logs nor are there any errors
in any logs now

A Basic Rule When Extortioning Expert SEOs

Never rely on only one piece of data to hold against the expert SEO;
particularly when the attack is derived from a "hunch".

These have never been, nor will they ever be my Internet properties.
Were some of these domains supposed to be mine, yes. Did I lose those
two domains that were supposed to be my reward for my efforts at
managing a new web site promotion until it reached a dominating
Internet presence in the Canadian tourism industry, yes. Was I crushed
by the loss but figured out another honest and ethical plan and decided
to wipe himself off and go for it again another way, yes. Did I get
drunk, yes. Am I on a better path today, yes. Is my life a complicated
mess and looks almost impossible to continue every second, yes.

Do I cry, yes. I cry for you and I cry for me and I cry for the art and
dignity of search engine optimization; its masters and its students.

Leave me alone will ya' I have done nothing wrong enough to any of you
to merit this.

Your letters of apology will be well-crafted, worthy of being content
quality should you ever attempt to ruin my career again. Your letters
will CLEARLY indicate that you pre-judged me based on flimsy data
derived from your SEO intuitiveness skills and that your malicious
attack at my integrity was what you once thought was in the best
interest of the SEO community. Finally, you must somehow convince the
readers that you are sincere, as I reserve the right to use your
letters of apology as content to demonstrate when you get out of line,
to show the innocent your history of bad judgment in the SEO community.
This will undoubtedly stop you from ever doing this again to anyone
else in this SEO circle.

You are in check. If you have a desperation move or have devised yet
another, let it show itself now. Otherwise, capitulate.

canadafred wrote:

<corerction>
Otherwise, capitulate, you buncha' low-life SEO punks.
</correctioon>

"canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Jezsta Web Productions wrote:

Fred you aren't much of an Expert if you don't know a person can actually
check the history of the domain. You changed it on the 10th. When I
posted
this link
http://whois.domaintools.com/canadawilds.com at the time I posted all
those
domains they were in your name. Which is why I posted the link to the
domaintools.com. If anyone had a chance to look they would have seen.

there have never been any errors in any logs nor are there any errors
in any logs now

A Basic Rule When Extortioning Expert SEOs

There is no extortion. It is the truth you owned the sites and manipulated
them with anchor text. Something you said you didn't do and was unethical.
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp even this has the change in
the cache as on the 10th of this month. I have that in those screen shots
also. All someone has to do is:
Scroll Down to see this link:Show underlying registry data for this record
takes you to the other part of the records. What people can't see is the
past history records unless they belong to a registered ICANN whois tool
base.

Never rely on only one piece of data to hold against the expert SEO;
particularly when the attack is derived from a "hunch".

Wasn't a hunch it was truth Fred, and then you preceded to build your hole
again by changing the registrant. All you had to do was say yeah they are
mine and yeah links are good. If fact you did if someone was following
through the that thread you stated something like I would rather have links
to my own sites that I can trust. I don't know if anyone caught it before
your little escapade. Now here is the thing most site owners wouldn't won't
all those links you had from the 1st page on.

Rest assured I know what slander is and that is what you are doing. I did
what I said I was going to do in my email.

Also Fred don't think that you are without trashing people here when they
haven't done anything or getting them when they are wrong. Shoot even Bill
in a way gets Dave going at times. You have done it on numerous occasions.
In fact just recently on Jul the 18th "

"I have been keeping an eye on that surprising UK competitor of yours. I
must say the quality of his content has improved significantly over the
last couple of his upgrades. He has further gained ground in his web
site's fortitude by empowering it with rather clever support content.
It appears as if he has been sharpening his pencil quietly in the
background. I must admit though, I did somewhat dislike seeing the way
he uses this A.I.S.E. Usenet group as cover for another agenda. The
manner in which he uses the anchor "alt.internet.search-engines FAQ"
from his top ranked SEO tutorial page, is definitely misleading,
inviting visitors to a completely different place other than
alt.internet.search-engines is rather distasteful for my palette. "

"It's stuff like this
http://www.internet-search-engines-f...et-links.shtml that I don't
particularly care about. I don't think any of the regular SEO experts
around here would endorse link exchanges let alone link brokering
masked as link excvhanges : "

in the same thread on the 21st " Personally, I'm the type that would prefer
to tell a
person off rather than "

**So you agree a person needs to be told off?**

You wrote this in reply to one of my postings in Jun;"ROTFL Go try this
"SEO" technique for keyphrases that people actually seek. " -- Actually the
techinique is quite good at gaining smaller SERPs buy making seperate
product pages. Pick up an extra 1200 visits that month. You then lied that
same day with this: I have 1 blog, 1 GooglesGroup and 1 web site ( that I am
aware of )."

There are numerous times in this NG that you have put down other people
techiniques with no proof that it doesn't work. You have repeatedly tried to
make yourself look at the #1 SEO and tried to stated you were ethical. Right
now you are not.

Just today here you are the 1st to tell someone off: "gee you are not a
spammer, pretty friggin' close though" --Humm, but you can post numerous
advertisements in NG's. Here are but a few of what you have posted. There
are many. You are kind of do as I say don't do as I do type of guy...I said
something like this before. What gives you the right to tell off that person
when you do the same? None!

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...6d95a34eb58006 -
just recently

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...8f6145f956ab9c

http://groups.google.com/group/can.g...5be87c82cac06d

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...bc50a7c9c77fc6

These have never been, nor will they ever be my Internet properties.
Were some of these domains supposed to be mine, yes.

See still trying to flip flop around. So some were yours at least you are
admitting to it.

Did I lose those
two domains that were supposed to be my reward for my efforts at
managing a new web site promotion until it reached a dominating
Internet presence in the Canadian tourism industry, yes.

So you lost 2 domains the other 8 were yours? Why was the whois data changed
on 7 of them, yes 1 is still in your name. You should have been a little
more creative and registered them privately to begin with pay the extra $5.
That way it would have been safer anyway. Especially if your competitors
looked at those. A SEO tip BTW you should always research fully competitors
websites.

Was I crushed
by the loss but figured out another honest and ethical plan and decided
to wipe himself off and go for it again another way, yes. Did I get
drunk, yes. Am I on a better path today, yes. Is my life a complicated
mess and looks almost impossible to continue every second, yes.

What are you going on about here. What does this have to do with you stating
you don't do any manipulation of sites with links? The present tense is what
we are talking about.

Should people treat you in the internet market any different just because
you say you are an alcoholic or have anxiety attacks? Shoot everyone has
bought of depression some in a big way. I have had a hard life myself and my
husband is in Baghdad right now. Do I have some depression with him being
gone you bet I do. Do I ask anyone to treat me any different?

Do I cry, yes. I cry for you and I cry for me and I cry for the art and
dignity of search engine optimization; its masters and its students.

Leave me alone will ya' I have done nothing wrong enough to any of you
to merit this.

No you just state how good you are at gaining SERPs without manipulating
with links. That is false as you were doing it. In fact it appears you tell
newbie's not to gain links which their site will fail, to me that is giving
bad advice. You claim to follow Google's guidelines completely but you
failed here are those sites are closely related even when breaking them up
to French and not. You own those sites, you did change the registration,
some didn't get changed until the 11th though when they made the cache
history.

You make advertisements to NG's, which is annoying.

You constantly put some SEO's down or their techniques and say you are
battling. And you do just as much to cause verbal bashing. Just this time it
got to you are it was true. That is why you are going about this rampage to
try and get it turned around. But it won't happen it is the truth. **History
records can be researched even by Google looking into Slander. Yes, I really
did turn you in for slander and turned in those sites in the same email.**
You are not being ethical with what you are doing ATM. What was said was
only here in this NG to you what I said was the truth. I even pointed Google
to the thread here in A.I.S-E where I put the truth out here in the NG.

If I was you I would now start to worry. Your verbal bashing and use of
offensive language is uncalled for. Your slander against Jez, Dave , and me
is uncalled for. What I was doing was like any other was proving my case.
You have to tell the truth for it *not* to be defamation of character and
slander. Yes, I can play hard ball also. You have used our real names on
your blog and used slandering defamation offensive remarks. Trust me any
legal firm can retrieve the complete past history for websites also to prove
I was telling the truth.

You also brought 2 other people into this that wasn't doing anything to you
but defending themselves from your obvious offensive attacks that you put on
people regularly here. Jez and Dave. Dave was just defending himself in
that one thread with his blog. One minute you praised him the next minute
you slashed at him. Jez did absolutely nothing.

I am not going to apologize for telling the truth. You want to continue then
fine I will seek legal actions if you continue trust me. If you feel you had
been done wrong you can seek the same. You can even go to Google and tell
them about this thread and the other one, plead your case as this is the
only place I have anything in regards to me showing your a liar.