seo dave the whimp!

I write that in all small letters because it is fitting. seo dave is a
total whimp who likes to talk like he's a know it all but in truth he
knows nothing and has no commercial sites listed anywhere. He challenges
me to an SEO contest then I accept and then I hear nothing back from
him? Of course I know why because I would so easily kick his butt and he
knows it. So anyone out there taking seo dave's advice be fore warned
this is a guy who runs from challenges even when he makes them and a guy
who has had 3 sites banned from google for doing spammy naughty things
with his internal pages of which he brags about having 50,000 internal
pages for anchor text reasons to manipulate his sites in the google
serps.

COME ON seo davy AND BE A MAN AND LIVE UP TO YOUR SEO CHALLENGE TO ME
WHICH I HAVE ACCEPTED. OTHERWISE I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE IN THIS NG TO
JUST IGNORE HIM.

"Sam" <. (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote

I write that in all small letters because it is fitting. seo dave is a
total whimp who likes to talk like he's a know it all but in truth he
knows nothing and has no commercial sites listed anywhere. He challenges
me to an SEO contest then I accept and then I hear nothing back from
him? Of course I know why because I would so easily kick his butt and he
knows it. So anyone out there taking seo dave's advice be fore warned
this is a guy who runs from challenges even when he makes them and a guy
who has had 3 sites banned from google for doing spammy naughty things
with his internal pages of which he brags about having 50,000 internal
pages for anchor text reasons to manipulate his sites in the google
serps.

COME ON seo davy AND BE A MAN AND LIVE UP TO YOUR SEO CHALLENGE TO ME
WHICH I HAVE ACCEPTED. OTHERWISE I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE IN THIS NG TO
JUST IGNORE HIM.

It's always very obvious when the school kids have their summer break.

Thanks for reminding everyone!

--
JayB

Sam:

Time to switch to decaf.


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Will
Webmaster: http://www.internet-search-engines-faq.com

I just want to do a simple one serp contest and you can pick the serp
and no more than a two page site (index page and one internal page) and
to make it really fair anchor keyword text is not allowed on or off the
site from anywhere. So in other words the serp anchor will say HOME.
We're only allowed 3 backlinks from pr6 sites we have to get the site
indexed. This contest obviously will only work if you pick a super easy
serp and the winner will be whoever gets the number one spot within
let's say 2 weeks. Since you don't want to compete with outside anchor
text linking and I don't want to compete with inside anchor text linking
the contest can only be based on on-page coding abilities. (however I do
think it could be interesting if we each used our own way of doing it so
it was also an outside v/s inside anchor linking contest but maybe
another time).

Don't you know that babes love the little boy inside the man Dave?

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:20:55 GMT, Sam <. (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

I write that in all small letters because it is fitting. seo dave is a
total whimp who likes to talk like he's a know it all but in truth he
knows nothing and has no commercial sites listed anywhere. He challenges
me to an SEO contest then I accept and then I hear nothing back from
him?

You are such a little child.

You posted your response at-

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 17:26:26 GMT, Sam <. (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

Which is just 24hrs prior to this post.

Don't you think you should give me some time to compose a witty
response.

Also need to think about how to arrange it so you won't cheat. Unless
you feel able to design some rules that will eliminate all other
variables?

Your first suggestion makes it unfair. The idea is to test our SEO
abilities not the power of anchor text from spammed links, for that to
work the links must come from the same place using the same anchor
text. The only changes should be on the pages that we make.

Of course I know why because I would so easily kick his butt and he
knows it.

Or could it be you have no patience and I'm very busy and don't
consider my response as something I plan to do on your time table.

So anyone out there taking seo dave's advice be fore warned
this is a guy who runs from challenges even when he makes them and a guy

How would you describe yourself? Idiot, fool, incompetent....

You make up a contest against me (Classic Literature) say your are
going to take number 1 within one week. Several days into it you pull
out, after the 7 days you failed to do what you said you would. Then
you say you've made another site that will be on page one, but this
time no indication of time scale.

Will there be a third site when the latest one fails. ROFLOL.

who has had 3 sites banned from google for doing spammy naughty things
with his internal pages.

Not true.

of which he brags about having 50,000 internal
pages for.

It's 55,000 pages now, feeling jealous are we Sam.

anchor text reasons to manipulate his sites in the google
serps.

COME ON seo davy AND BE A MAN AND LIVE UP TO YOUR SEO CHALLENGE TO ME
WHICH I HAVE ACCEPTED. OTHERWISE I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE IN THIS NG TO
JUST IGNORE HIM.

First let me remind you of what I said Spammy Sammy-

"For example we both make one page and have exactly the same amount of
links with identical anchor text from the same pages. This would
exclude the effects of links/anchor text and so only rank our ability"

Does that actually comes across as a specific challenge? No, it's an
example of how you would setup a challenge to test on page SEO
abilities.

Now if you want to test your abilities against mine come up a with a
fair test and I'll participate since I know my on page SEO is far
better than yours.

If you are to do this you have to make the test as close to real world
as possible. Unlike you most people are interested in multiple SERPs,
it would therefore make sense to build a small site (less than 20
pages) targeting a groups of related phrases (up to say 30 phrases).

This way your use of internal linking (which is important) would be a
part of the test.

The starting point would be the same number of links from the same
pages using the same anchor text.

Scoring who is best would be based on potential traffic. You could
rate each of the phrases based on Wordtracker figures and some simple
maths.

This would be like optimising a real site with targeted traffic in
mind rather than just going after the one phrase at all costs (I don't
work that way).

The winner would be the person with most over all traffic.

The time frame should really be 6 months, but I doubt you could stop
yourself adding new spammed links in that time. So 6 weeks might be
more reasonable.

What might work is starting with the same content (something obscure)
and using it how we see fit to get the best SERPs over all. This again
would be like a real site rather than some made up rubbish that makes
no sense (I won't participate in anything like that).

It's not an easy thing to setup!!!

David
--
http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/

In article <40EC2FFC.457 (AT) mail (DOT) com>, Sam says...

I write that in all small letters because it is fitting. seo dave is a
total whimp who likes to talk like he's a know it all but in truth he
knows nothing and has no commercial sites listed anywhere. He challenges
me to an SEO contest then I accept and then I hear nothing back from
him? Of course I know why because I would so easily kick his butt and he
knows it. So anyone out there taking seo dave's advice be fore warned
this is a guy who runs from challenges even when he makes them and a guy
who has had 3 sites banned from google for doing spammy naughty things
with his internal pages of which he brags about having 50,000 internal
pages for anchor text reasons to manipulate his sites in the google
serps.

COME ON seo davy AND BE A MAN AND LIVE UP TO YOUR SEO CHALLENGE TO ME
WHICH I HAVE ACCEPTED. OTHERWISE I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE IN THIS NG TO
JUST IGNORE HIM.

God, I'm sick of your bullshit mouth. Shut the fuck up. You and your
ideas...what a joke. What were your sites again????

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:08:29 GMT, Sam <. (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

I just want to do a simple one serp contest and you can pick the serp
and no more than a two page site (index page and one internal page) and
to make it really fair anchor keyword text is not allowed on or off the
site from anywhere. So in other words the serp anchor will say HOME.
We're only allowed 3 backlinks from pr6 sites we have to get the site
indexed.

You are missing the point, if you have three links from your PR6 pages
and I have three links from 3 of my PR6 pages we have already
introduced a variable that could skew the results.

What's to say the winner isn't because mine or your PR6s are higher
than the others?

For it to be a true test the links MUST come from the same place.

Also to make it really fair we would also have to have almost
identical sites. Say signup for a free hosting account (that doesn't
have advertising) from the same company.

This would then only leave coding ability and content and if we both
had the same content to work with (like you would if you were hired to
SEO a site) it would only be coding ability.

If you aren't up to the challenge....

This contest obviously will only work if you pick a super easy
serp and the winner will be whoever gets the number one spot within
let's say 2 weeks. Since you don't want to compete with outside anchor
text linking and I don't want to compete with inside anchor text linking
the contest can only be based on on-page coding abilities.

What's wrong with "inside anchor text linking"? It's part of on site
optimisation and can be done in several ways and something you have to
do with a real site.

I don't have a problem with "outside anchor text linking" if you are
testing who can find the most places to link from. But what does that
prove, you can blog spam more links than I can get through reciprocal
links. It doesn't show who is better at SEO.

(however I do
think it could be interesting if we each used our own way of doing it so
it was also an outside v/s inside anchor linking contest but maybe
another time).

You clearly don't understand SEO very well.

David
--
http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 23:55:47 -0700, Joe wrote:

God, I'm sick of your bullshit mouth. Shut the fuck up. You and your
ideas...what a joke. What were your sites again????

I am probably going to hell for this, but... these are my guesses on the
answer to your question:

http://www.chrissysbedroom.com/
http://your-account.info/
http://www.blowjobphone.com/
http://www.phonefeminization.com/
http://www.livephonedomination.com/
http://www.phone-sex-guestbook.com/
http://www.dominatingphonebitches.com/
http://www.taboophonefetishes.com/
http://www.highclassblondes4phone.com/

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Will
Webmaster: http://www.internet-search-engines-faq.com

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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:08:29 GMT, Sam <. (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

I just want to do a simple one serp contest and you can pick the serp
and no more than a two page site (index page and one internal page)
and to make it really fair anchor keyword text is not allowed on or
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Request - since it's a (albeit minor) irritation to have to keep adding
mutating poster names to the killfile, would it be possible to either not
change subject line or change them with a [Was...] so that there isn't a
burgeoning list under "ignore this thread"?

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