Disappearing Home Page

I have been running a hobby site for about a year. A while back the
homepage had a pagerank of two. Now it has a page rank of 0 and
according to Google Webmaster Tools it has no external or internal
links. In reality every page on the site links to the index page and
nearly all of my external links are to the index page as well. I have
a links page with no external links that I am aware of and it still
has a pagerank of 2 .

A few months ago when I checked Google Webmaster Tools I found that
the homepage had around 20 extremely dubious links which I suspected
had been paid for by someone. Subsequently my homepage disappeared
from googles radar. How do you protect yourself against this kind of
pseudo-criminal activity and how the hell do you get hold of google to
protest your innocence. It seems to me that google are busily
developing the most perfect mechanism for f*****g shysters and crooks
to close down websites they disapprove of.

http://www.americymru.com
http://americymru.blogspot.com

"defnydd" <americymru (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

I have been running a hobby site for about a year. A while back the
homepage had a pagerank of two. Now it has a page rank of 0 and
according to Google Webmaster Tools it has no external or internal
links. In reality every page on the site links to the index page and
nearly all of my external links are to the index page as well. I have
a links page with no external links that I am aware of and it still
has a pagerank of 2 .
http://www.americymru.com

or http://americymru.com/ ?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

On Apr 1, 9:15 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr... (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:

"defnydd" <americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

I have been running a hobby site for about a year. A while back the
homepage had a pagerank of two. Now it has a page rank of 0 and
according to Google Webmaster Tools it has no external or internal
links. In reality every page on the site links to the index page and
nearly all of my external links are to the index page as well. I have
a links page with no external links that I am aware of and it still
has a pagerank of 2 .
http://www.americymru.com

orhttp://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

"defnydd" <americymru (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

http://www.americymru.com
or http://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

You have at least two, possibly four index pages, so far as Google is
concerned.
http://americymru.com/
http://www.americymru.com/
http://americymru.com/index.html
http://www.americymru.com/index.html

http://www.americymru.com/ seems to be the one with the page rank. You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (or www.domain.com/) in incoming links.

That may not be 100% of your problem- but it's certainly part of it, and
once you've sorted it, other problems (if there are any) will be eaier to
see.
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

"Andrew Heenan" <andrew3 (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote ...
You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (or www.domain.com/) in incoming links.

Sorry, very sloppy wording (I'm tired!)

What I mean is, reduce Googles confusion and concentrate your page rank by
reducing the number of duplicates (in Google's eyes), with a 301 permanent
redirect from http://americymru.com/ to http://www.americymru.com/.

You must also stop using*index.html* anywhere, and change linking as
mentioned.

If all four URLs exist (eg by appearing when people link to them), then your
page rank will be shared amongst them, and webmaster tools will be
unreliable.

Sorry for muddled thinking,
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

On Apr 1, 11:30 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr... (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:

"defnydd" <americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

http://www.americymru.com
orhttp://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

You have at least two, possibly four index pages, so far as Google is
concerned.http://americymru.com/http://www.ame...com/index.html

http://www.americymru.com/seems to be the one with the page rank. You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (orwww.domain.com/) in incoming links.

That may not be 100% of your problem- but it's certainly part of it, and
once you've sorted it, other problems (if there are any) will be eaier to
see.
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

Thanks for the heads up. I certainly get what you mean about the "/"
in links and i can globally remove references to index.html . On the
redirect question are you suggesting that I use the Apache rewrite
engine. If so...groan. Also ( sorry to take up more of your time ),
what are the chances in your opinion that I am actually the victim of
a paid link scam. I was sure of it this morning but your advice has
raised some doubts.

"defnydd" <americymru (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

Thanks for the heads up. I certainly get what you mean about the "/"
in links and i can globally remove references to index.html . On the
redirect question are you suggesting that I use the Apache rewrite
engine. If so...groan. Also ( sorry to take up more of your time ),
what are the chances in your opinion that I am actually the victim of
a paid link scam. I was sure of it this morning but your advice has
raised some doubts.

Can't be sure, without a very long look, and a lot more info!

In your situation, I'd clean up everything in sight - and for Google, that
means sorting the www problem - but most of all, it means checking ALL your
outgoing links, especially ANY paidlinks, reciprocals and no-related.

If in doubt, chuck 'em out.

Start monitoring your site's place in the serps for a selection of keywords.

Best wishes,


--

Andrew

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT), defnydd
<americymru (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Apr 1, 11:30 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr... (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:
"defnydd" <americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

http://www.americymru.com
orhttp://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

You have at least two, possibly four index pages, so far as Google is
concerned.http://americymru.com/http://www.ame...com/index.html

http://www.americymru.com/seems to be the one with the page rank. You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (orwww.domain.com/) in incoming links.

That may not be 100% of your problem- but it's certainly part of it, and
once you've sorted it, other problems (if there are any) will be eaier to
see.
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

Thanks for the heads up. I certainly get what you mean about the "/"
in links and i can globally remove references to index.html . On the
redirect question are you suggesting that I use the Apache rewrite
engine. If so...groan. Also ( sorry to take up more of your time ),
what are the chances in your opinion that I am actually the victim of
a paid link scam. I was sure of it this morning but your advice has
raised some doubts.

You won't be penalised for having paid links pointing at you. Any link
value they might have passed will be discounted by Google. You still
might get traffic from them. I wish someone would try a paid link scam
against me :-)

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/
http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/

On Apr 2, 3:15 pm, Big Bill <b... (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT), defnydd



americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Apr 1, 11:30 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr... (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:
"defnydd" <americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

http://www.americymru.com
orhttp://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

You have at least two, possibly four index pages, so far as Google is
concerned.http://americymru.com/http://www.ame...americymru.com...

http://www.americymru.com/seemsto be the one with the page rank. You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (orwww.domain.com/) in incoming links.

That may not be 100% of your problem- but it's certainly part of it, and
once you've sorted it, other problems (if there are any) will be eaier to
see.
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

Thanks for the heads up. I certainly get what you mean about the "/"
in links and i can globally remove references to index.html . On the
redirect question are you suggesting that I use the Apache rewrite
engine. If so...groan. Also ( sorry to take up more of your time ),
what are the chances in your opinion that I am actually the victim of
a paid link scam. I was sure of it this morning but your advice has
raised some doubts.

You won't be penalised for having paid links pointing at you. Any link
value they might have passed will be discounted by Google. You still
might get traffic from them. I wish someone would try a paid link scam
against me :-)

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/http://www.fa...posters.co.uk/

lol...ok I misunderstood the way that worked . I thought your page
rank dropped as a result of that sort of thing. If the links are
merely ignored I guess I'm worrying about nothing. Many thanks.

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 23:24:36 -0700 (PDT), defnydd
<americymru (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 3:15 pm, Big Bill <b... (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT), defnydd



americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Apr 1, 11:30 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr... (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:
"defnydd" <americy... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

http://www.americymru.com
orhttp://americymru.com/?
you need a 301 from one to the other.

Thanks for responding. I want to believe there is some other reason
for this before launching an online jihad against the suspected
culprit but I'm not sure I understand you. How/Why would a 301 help?
Google webmaster tools says at the moment that I don't have an index
page whereas it used to recognize it and index links etc. Pleas pardon
my ignorance in this matter.

You have at least two, possibly four index pages, so far as Google is
concerned.http://americymru.com/http://www.ame...americymru.com...

http://www.americymru.com/seemsto be the one with the page rank. You need
to reduce that by half, by a 301 redirect from a-b or b-a. You also must
stop using .html - everywhere. Just link to '/' internally, and to
domain.com/ (orwww.domain.com/) in incoming links.

That may not be 100% of your problem- but it's certainly part of it, and
once you've sorted it, other problems (if there are any) will be eaier to
see.
--

Andrew
seo2seo.com
sick-site-syndrome.com

Thanks for the heads up. I certainly get what you mean about the "/"
in links and i can globally remove references to index.html . On the
redirect question are you suggesting that I use the Apache rewrite
engine. If so...groan. Also ( sorry to take up more of your time ),
what are the chances in your opinion that I am actually the victim of
a paid link scam. I was sure of it this morning but your advice has
raised some doubts.

You won't be penalised for having paid links pointing at you. Any link
value they might have passed will be discounted by Google. You still
might get traffic from them. I wish someone would try a paid link scam
against me :-)

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/http://www.fa...posters.co.uk/

lol...ok I misunderstood the way that worked . I thought your page
rank dropped as a result of that sort of thing. If the links are
merely ignored I guess I'm worrying about nothing. Many thanks.

That's ok. Think about it, anyone could get anyone else penalised just
by buying them a lot of inbounds. Wouldn't make sense.

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/
http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/