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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-14-2006 , 05:31 PM






let's see reporting spam to google.... is that anything like reporting
illegal spying and wiretaping to g.w. bush? maybe if we close our eyes
and say to ourselves "I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies
google will actually reas the spam reports and do something.... wouldn't
hold your breadth though...

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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-14-2006 , 07:55 PM






"Sam" <sam (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com> wrote


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let's see reporting spam to google.... is that anything like reporting
illegal spying and wiretaping to g.w. bush?
These two things don't appear to be related at all. Can you please expand on
this comparison?

Quote:
maybe if we close our eyes and say to ourselves
"I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies
google will actually reas the spam reports and
do something.... wouldn't hold your breadth though...
In spite of whether Google does anything or not about a particular spammer,
is incidental. The fact is that if enough people start using the spamming
reports more regularly, the search engines will be able to have a clearer
understanding of our frustration with them. They allow us place to comment
and we trust that many of them do get analyzed. Last week I was ranting and
raving here in the Usenet group and it dawned on me, I should be wasting my
energy on the spam reports themselves. I don't care if anyone ever reads
them. I see a spammer in front of one of my web sites, it gets reported. Roy
has put the spam report pages of the major search engines in one place. Most
excellent. Now I go to one page and report the three all at once. I don't
waste my time with showing my search criteria and the web page result it
provided.

My reports look something like this :

Here's the spammer, here's the spam, I hate competing against this, please
deal with this shit.

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www.rezultz-web-site-promotion.com
I have nothing more to add at this time.




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Roy Schestowitz
 
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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 12:31 AM



__/ [ canadafred ] on Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:55 \__

Quote:
"Sam" <sam (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:4417455E.489E (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com...

let's see reporting spam to google.... is that anything like reporting
illegal spying and wiretaping to g.w. bush?

These two things don't appear to be related at all. Can you please expand
on this comparison?

maybe if we close our eyes and say to ourselves
"I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies
google will actually reas the spam reports and
do something.... wouldn't hold your breadth though...

In spite of whether Google does anything or not about a particular spammer,
is incidental. The fact is that if enough people start using the spamming
reports more regularly, the search engines will be able to have a clearer
understanding of our frustration with them. They allow us place to comment
and we trust that many of them do get analyzed. Last week I was ranting and
raving here in the Usenet group and it dawned on me, I should be wasting my
energy on the spam reports themselves. I don't care if anyone ever reads
them. I see a spammer in front of one of my web sites, it gets reported.
Roy has put the spam report pages of the major search engines in one place.
Most excellent. Now I go to one page and report the three all at once. I
don't waste my time with showing my search criteria and the web page result
it provided.

My reports look something like this :

Here's the spammer, here's the spam, I hate competing against this, please
deal with this shit.
Fred, do you want me to include this as tiny text at the top frame as to
enable quicker cutting and pasting?

With kind regards,

Roy


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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 05:08 AM



"Sam" <sam (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com> wrote ...
Quote:
let's see reporting spam to google.... is that anything like reporting
illegal spying and wiretaping to g.w. bush? maybe if we close our eyes
and say to ourselves "I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies
google will actually reas the spam reports and do something.... wouldn't
hold your breadth though...
No need to hold anything.

Google has always dealt with spam reports, and lately with much more in the
way of resources and effectiveness.

Visit the spammer forums and hear the whining, wailing and gnashing of
teeth.

Visit matt Cutts blog to get the letest tale of woe that has hit the
spamming fraternity - you'll be laughing out loud. No? well, I did!
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Andrew Heenan
Editor
http://www.seo2seo.com/
Directory of Quality Directories
"I Don't Know A Lot - But I Know Spam When I See It"




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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 06:30 AM



There is circumstantial evidence that on Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:31:01
GMT, Sam <sam (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com> wrote
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Quote:
› let's see reporting spam to google....
› google will actually reas the spam reports and do something.... wouldn't
› hold your breadth though...
I wonder if maybe its possible that out of the billions of pages and
presumably millions of reports they only respond to spam reports that
X amount of people report? In other words unless X reports come in
about a site they can't justify looking at it as there are too many to
deal with?

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canadafred
 
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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 07:19 AM



"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote


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Fred, do you want me to include this as tiny text at the top frame as to
enable quicker cutting and pasting?
No that's Ok Roy, thanks anyway man.

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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 07:51 AM



On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:08:40 -0000, "Andrew Heenan"
<andrew4 (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
"Sam" <sam (AT) earthmoonsun (DOT) com> wrote ...
let's see reporting spam to google.... is that anything like reporting
illegal spying and wiretaping to g.w. bush? maybe if we close our eyes
and say to ourselves "I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies
google will actually reas the spam reports and do something.... wouldn't
hold your breadth though...

No need to hold anything.

Google has always dealt with spam reports, and lately with much more in the
way of resources and effectiveness.

Visit the spammer forums and hear the whining, wailing and gnashing of
teeth.
What the hell is a spammer forum? Anyone ever heard of a forum for
spammers? Are there such places? i mean, who would read it, it'd be
all spam...I sometimes wonder if AH isn't the practitioner of some
brand-new form of comedy that absolutely escapes me.

Quote:
Visit matt Cutts blog to get the letest tale of woe that has hit the
spamming fraternity
First place they'd go, obviously.

BB


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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: Report Spam to Google, MSN, and Yahoo - 03-15-2006 , 11:17 AM



"xyZed" <xyzed (AT) xyzed (DOT) co.uk> wrote ...
Quote:
I wonder if maybe its possible that out of the billions of pages and
presumably millions of reports they only respond to spam reports that
X amount of people report? In other words unless X reports come in
about a site they can't justify looking at it as there are too many to
deal with?
I'm sure there's a lot in that.

There's no way that every single spam report gets a human eye; much as I
want Google to do more about spam, I see no advantage to anyone in their
going bust trying, even if it drops the unemployment figures in six
countries.

The first line of spam detection and destruction has to be a statistical
one; so one factor in the database has to be the number of reports;

Each spam report is, in effect, a vote against the spammer.

I'm equally sure they log the IP and ID of each repoprt too, so that when a
local idiot thinks it's clever to report my (zero spam)site 100 times,
Google will see who it is, and killfile him - much as I did. ;o)

The methods used by the spammers will also be relevant; we know, for
example, that Google has campaigns against particular forms - one month, the
algo removes a bunch of crap directories, and in the following weeks, many
more got manual removals.

At other times, different link monger types have been hit.

The point of this dirge is to agree with xyZed - and to point out that just
because a spammer is still there, does not mean he (or she!) always will be.
One of the key differences between spammers and non-spammers, is the honest
folk get to sleep at night - while the cheats get muscle strain looking over
their shoulders!
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Andrew Heenan
Editor
http://www.seo2seo.com/
Directory of Quality Directories
"I Don't Know A Lot - But I Know Spam When I See It"




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