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John
 
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Default renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 01:27 PM






Hello,
I think I know the answer to this but I hope I'm wrong. I want to add a php
script to existing pages. All of the pages are currently *.htm and after I
add the script they would have to be renamed to *.php. I'm hosted on a
windows machine and my host doesn't redirect pages within a website.

I've renamed pages in the past, putting the old page name in my robots.txt
file for a few weeks, with mixed results.
MSN removed the old listings from it's SERP's and added the new listings.
After about a month, my new page is where my old page was in the SERP's.

G added *some* new listings but did not remove the old listings. I suspect
G added all new listings but they are buried so deep no one will find them.
I also filled out a form @ G to remove the old listings but they don't seem
to follow up on that. The old listings are about where they were in the
SERP's

Yahoo added the new listings and, I just found out, removed the old listings
but the new listings are way down in the SERP's.

Do I have a better option? The page name is the same except for the
extension.

Thanks,
John




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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 02:14 PM






John wrote:
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Do I have a better option? The page name is the same except for the
Do you have your own domain name? If so it may be worth moving to a
better host that will let you 301 all the old pages.

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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 02:40 PM



it's the only way, 301's are recognised by the search engines and are
treated as a permanent page move. Anything else can be confused as an
attempt to spam.
Matt

"davidof" <david.george (AT) g-dumpthisbit-mail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
John wrote:
Do I have a better option? The page name is the same except for the

Do you have your own domain name? If so it may be worth moving to a better
host that will let you 301 all the old pages.

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http://www.abcseo.com/



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John
 
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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 03:11 PM




"M@y" <mj.paines (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote

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it's the only way, 301's are recognised by the search engines and are
treated as a permanent page move. Anything else can be confused as an
attempt to spam.
Matt

"davidof" <david.george (AT) g-dumpthisbit-mail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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John wrote:
Do I have a better option? The page name is the same except for the

Do you have your own domain name? If so it may be worth moving to a
better host that will let you 301 all the old pages.

----------------------
http://www.abcseo.com/
Thanks Matt and David. I just sent an e-mail to my host to let them know
that I will have to move if they can't do 301 redirects.

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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 04:58 PM



On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:27:16 +0100, John <nospam (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I think I know the answer to this but I hope I'm wrong. I want to add a
php
script to existing pages. All of the pages are currently *.htm and
after I
add the script they would have to be renamed to *.php. I'm hosted on a
windows machine and my host doesn't redirect pages within a website.
Are you sure you will need to change extensions?

I have no idea about Windows servers, but I believe at least Apache server
can be configured (using .htaccess file) to treat your *.htm files as
*.php. General idea is - it doesn't matter what the file extension is,
what is important is how the file is treated by OS/HTTP server software.

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davidof
 
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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 05:30 PM



Borek wrote:
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I have no idea about Windows servers, but I believe at least Apache
server can be configured (using .htaccess file) to treat your *.htm
files as *.php. General idea is - it doesn't matter what the file
extension is, what is important is how the file is treated by OS/HTTP
server software.
That's true Borek and it occured to me. It is certainly possible with
Apache to do this as you suggest and of course any file that is just
HTML will continue to function as before perhaps with a slight delay for
PHP parsing.

Maybe someone like Roy can see some drawbacks apart from the small
performance hit?


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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-05-2006 , 07:09 PM



My suggestion is that you leave your old pages on the server and, on the old
page, you add a "click here" link to to the new version.

Last year a website which operated in opposition to mine went out of
business but it took Google the best part of a year to drop the pages.

Of course you would also remove links to the old pages from index.html and
where-ever else is appropriate.
"John" <nospam (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hello,
I think I know the answer to this but I hope I'm wrong. I want to add a
php script to existing pages. All of the pages are currently *.htm and
after I add the script they would have to be renamed to *.php. I'm hosted
on a windows machine and my host doesn't redirect pages within a website.

I've renamed pages in the past, putting the old page name in my robots.txt
file for a few weeks, with mixed results.
MSN removed the old listings from it's SERP's and added the new listings.
After about a month, my new page is where my old page was in the SERP's.

G added *some* new listings but did not remove the old listings. I
suspect G added all new listings but they are buried so deep no one will
find them. I also filled out a form @ G to remove the old listings but
they don't seem to follow up on that. The old listings are about where
they were in the SERP's

Yahoo added the new listings and, I just found out, removed the old
listings but the new listings are way down in the SERP's.

Do I have a better option? The page name is the same except for the
extension.

Thanks,
John






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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-06-2006 , 03:18 AM



On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:09:49 +1300, "Colin Wilson"
<vortigern (AT) hell (DOT) net.nz> wrote:

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My suggestion is that you leave your old pages on the server and, on the old
page, you add a "click here" link to to the new version.
You would want to work your keyword or phrase into the anchor text.
Using "click here" is a waste of an opportunity.

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Default Re: renaming pages From ex.htm to ex.php - 03-06-2006 , 03:34 AM



When my calendarclock said 2006-03-06 09:18 [BIP], the user known as Big
Bill typed:

Hi

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:09:49 +1300, "Colin Wilson"
vortigern (AT) hell (DOT) net.nz> wrote:

My suggestion is that you leave your old pages on the server and, on the old
page, you add a "click here" link to to the new version.

You would want to work your keyword or phrase into the anchor text.
Using "click here" is a waste of an opportunity.
Unless you want to beat Adobe Acrobat Reader download page ;-)
http://www.google.pl/search?q=click+here

TK


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