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Default relation between indexing and ranking - 06-08-2006 , 05:35 PM






Hello.

I have this website that has product reviews. In main page i always
have two or 3 reviews.

The site is made in php/mysql and the page that has the product reviews
has the keywords in the title.

However when i checked in google my site keyword, i could only found
the reviews of the 3 products in homepage.

I tought that since google spiders all site (and it does spiders a lot,
more than any other, and most my visitors come from google), and since
my keyword is in every review page, my site would appear many times,
for each page review product....but no, only appears for the 3 product
with reviews in homepage.

Thx


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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-09-2006 , 02:30 AM






__/ [ xptomarketing (AT) gmail (DOT) com ] on Thursday 08 June 2006 22:35 \__

Quote:
Hello.

I have this website that has product reviews. In main page i always
have two or 3 reviews.

The site is made in php/mysql and the page that has the product reviews
has the keywords in the title.

However when i checked in google my site keyword, i could only found
the reviews of the 3 products in homepage.

I tought that since google spiders all site (and it does spiders a lot,
more than any other, and most my visitors come from google), and since
my keyword is in every review page, my site would appear many times,
for each page review product....but no, only appears for the 3 product
with reviews in homepage.
You must be the sufferer of the most recent Google bug. See, for example, the
6 links in this post:

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...les-big-daddy/

I believe that people in this newsgroup have been finding it tedious to
provide the same explanations dozens of times. You can find more information
in older threads.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-09-2006 , 11:43 AM




Quote:
You must be the sufferer of the most recent Google bug. See, for example, the
6 links in this post:

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...les-big-daddy/

I believe that people in this newsgroup have been finding it tedious to
provide the same explanations dozens of times. You can find more information
in older threads.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Hi Roy, im not sure we are talking the same thing. I mean, my pages are
indexed, all of them, the problem is that they do not appear in serps
in first 1-3 pages, like the indext.php page.



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Roy Schestowitz
 
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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-09-2006 , 11:57 PM



__/ [ xptomarketing (AT) gmail (DOT) com ] on Friday 09 June 2006 16:43 \__

Quote:
You must be the sufferer of the most recent Google bug. See, for example,
the 6 links in this post:

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...les-big-daddy/

I believe that people in this newsgroup have been finding it tedious to
provide the same explanations dozens of times. You can find more
information in older threads.

Hi Roy, im not sure we are talking the same thing. I mean, my pages are
indexed, all of them, the problem is that they do not appear in serps
in first 1-3 pages, like the indext.php page.
Your site could have been the victim of penalties. Maybe just some
explainable fluctuations. Check your positions daily and see if they
oscillate, so to speak. Try different datacentres (IP addresses) if it
helps.

You might find the following valuable:

http://www.tippy.co.uk/google-datacenter-check/

Best wishes,

Roy

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Darren Tipton
 
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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-10-2006 , 04:24 AM



On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:57:25 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
You might find the following valuable:

http://www.tippy.co.uk/google-datacenter-check/

Best wishes,
Just a quick post to let you know I've updated it to now test the
first datacenter in each C-Block.

The main run has always only done 10 DC's in total to keep load down
on the server (err, I mean stop Google throwing error/redirects back
at me).

The C-Block test at least checks one datacenter in each C-Block so you
can see if things are varying globally which I think is more use than
the standard test.

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Stacey
 
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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-10-2006 , 07:33 AM



"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
__/ [ xptomarketing (AT) gmail (DOT) com ] on Friday 09 June 2006 16:43 \__

You must be the sufferer of the most recent Google bug. See, for
example,
the 6 links in this post:

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...les-big-daddy/

I believe that people in this newsgroup have been finding it tedious to
provide the same explanations dozens of times. You can find more
information in older threads.

Hi Roy, im not sure we are talking the same thing. I mean, my pages are
indexed, all of them, the problem is that they do not appear in serps
in first 1-3 pages, like the indext.php page.

Your site could have been the victim of penalties. Maybe just some
explainable fluctuations.
Not necessarily being a victim. Not everyone can have the top positions.
There are always someone ready to take them from you. A person has to keep
on top of their links and watch who they link with etc. The sites that moved
up could have gain more PR and links. That is how Google works. Plus, if he
was a victim of a penalty if he hasn't done nothing wrong then he needs to
check his links etc. Trust me I have seen several sites go down because of
their links, once corrected they came back up.

But not knowing the site and SERP there is nothing more that can be said.

Stacey
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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-10-2006 , 03:41 PM




Quote:
Your site could have been the victim of penalties. Maybe just some
explainable fluctuations. Check your positions daily and see if they
oscillate, so to speak. Try different datacentres (IP addresses) if it
helps.

You might find the following valuable:

http://www.tippy.co.uk/google-datacenter-check/

Best wishes,

Roy

My site has about 10.000 pages.
According to awstats i think they are all indexed...as you can see in
the next link.

http://www.ezdn.biz/imagehost/uploads/b3faf40df1.gif

The problem is that if i type the word "review" (in my language, not
english) and the word of the product, i only appear in top rankings for
the 3 products in homepage.

Let me tell you that i am number 1 in all SEs for the word "review" in
my language.

So i tought that beeing the number 1 for the word "review" when someone
would search for that word plus the product name, i would be the
first....but it seems that i am wrong...



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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-10-2006 , 03:43 PM




Quote:
Just a quick post to let you know I've updated it to now test the
first datacenter in each C-Block.

The main run has always only done 10 DC's in total to keep load down
on the server (err, I mean stop Google throwing error/redirects back
at me).

The C-Block test at least checks one datacenter in each C-Block so you
can see if things are varying globally which I think is more use than
the standard test.

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Hi, now you are loosing me
This is getting too complicated...
I am finding a hard time to understand why i need to search in
different datacenters, and now you come with these c-block issues..



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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-11-2006 , 08:08 AM



On 10 Jun 2006 12:43:57 -0700, xptomarketing (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Hi, now you are loosing me
This is getting too complicated...
I am finding a hard time to understand why i need to search in
different datacenters, and now you come with these c-block issues..
Its a pretty simple explanation really.

Google has a number of datacenters, each on their own internet address
(IP, which takes the form of ww.xx.yy.zz, example = 64.233.161.99)

In the address above, the .161. is the bit we are interested in as
that is the C-Class/Block address.

On one of the other C-Blocks, Google has

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

i.e. 3 machines in the C-Block

Its also faster than checking them all, and means my site is less
likely to cause Google to block it.

More info on IP address Class's can be found at
http: //computer.howstuffworks.com/question549.htm

Darren

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Default Re: relation between indexing and ranking - 06-11-2006 , 12:19 PM




Quote:
Its a pretty simple explanation really.

Google has a number of datacenters, each on their own internet address
(IP, which takes the form of ww.xx.yy.zz, example = 64.233.161.99)

In the address above, the .161. is the bit we are interested in as
that is the C-Class/Block address.

On one of the other C-Blocks, Google has

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147

i.e. 3 machines in the C-Block

Its also faster than checking them all, and means my site is less
likely to cause Google to block it.

More info on IP address Class's can be found at
http: //computer.howstuffworks.com/question549.htm

Darren

Many thanks Darren, I think i got it.
::xpto



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