Reference on Fred Joly

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"Jezsta Web Productions" <JezzzStaa (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:
snip
Yeah, I seen the ones from here. I made that as a joke as most of them
came from here. At least 20 went back a few times.;-) I can only count
at least 20 yesterday was actual visitors looking for SEO.

That's very good!

Be better if all 20 turned into clients.:-) It is easier on a new site to
what the stats and pages viewed with the IP's on such a small traffic pull.
I do that on other sites also that are low traffic that I have. Like to see
what country and state they come form. People search differently in
different countries. How they put their keywords in order is what I mean.

Well thanks for stopping by, I stop by yours every so often to get
rewrite tips. Or when every you send us to a link.:-)

Thanks.

NP.

If I have any people inquiring or Perl scripts or something else technical
like stuff I will send them your way.:-)

<snip>

My German phone 69-72 euro for internet also, which has a plan for
long distance also, and all the local call everywhere is included.
Which is expensive but not like it use to counting each little
click.:-) But we the plan as the internet can go down and then if I
have to be reached I can with the German phone.:-)

With VOIP buster, I have a free phone number in the Netherlands :-) People
in the Netherlands pay local costs, so it's easier to call all the way to
Mexico for them.

Pretty cool huh, better than feeling like you should own stock in a phone
company years ago when you had to take a 2nd mortgage just to call
internationally from Europe.

When we lived in the UK my oldest 2 hated paying for their calls that I made
them do past a certain limit. Jen found out that calling mobiles wasn't
cheap. :-) She usually ran past her monthly limit I let them have for not
paying quite a bit. I always wondered how people can talked for over 2 hours
sometime, my ears get sore after 20 minutes(10 min. each ear) . :-)

Stacey
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On 11 Aug 2006 18:02:22 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Sam <sam (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

David wrote:

Actually you can look yourself if you like-

http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/ this month around 11,000 visitors
a day (down a little, summer holidays).



David
--

It's amazing, according to wordtracker the entire 'classic literature'
serp gets 161 visitors per day which means you get more visitors to your
one classic literature site then the entire serp gets. How do you do it?

David doesn't focus on 1 SERP (would be stupid). Also WordTracker is just
a sample from a few small SE's. As I have said very often in the past,
take it with a huge grain of salt, not as the absolute truth.

If you doubt me, analyze the AOL data, and compare it with wordtracker.
You will be amazed.

Also, read a bit more up in the thread, and see how Alexa traffic rank and
AOL rank match up (they really don't).

Finally, even if we all could see Google's actual search data, it still
can't be used for comparing sites. Some sites rely for 90% of their
traffic on Google, others for 50%. So all that: hey, wordtracker says x,
so you have x visitors a day max via Google for that SERP is like
predicting the second coming by my shoe size.

Apparently, then, checking with mine, the second coming will be a
broad UK size 12. Cuban heels, too.

BB
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On 11 Aug 2006 11:39:29 -0700, "canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

This posting by an innocent Internet hopeful sparked a jealous driven
attack on my character, my ethics and my SEO techniques. A vicious
assault is still atking place and turns its ugly head in many damaging
directions to me, to the co-conspirators and to the industry of SEO as
a whole.

Um.

I would like to point out that the email posted by Billy, as a
desperation measure of mine in an effort to terminate embarassing
discusions about me online.

As I needed and did mention that I worked Billy's text to suit the need
some of the contents within are my own words.

Oh dear Fred - you made your recommendation up? The one testimonial
you presented in your defence and you wrote it yourself?

I particularly addressing
those written about my Quebec experience. They of course interpret it a
completely way. Their final verdict of me if that I contributed nothing
to their business success. They don't make for a good reference and I
should not have included them in this response. That was not a good
marketing decision on my part, it was not well-though out.

Much like a lot of what you've been posting lately. Perhaps a period
of quiet reflection is called for here. By both parties.

BB
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Big Bill schreef:

Much like a lot of what you've been posting lately. Perhaps a period
of quiet reflection is called for here. By both parties.

That should have happend a long time ago. I, speaking for myselve, am
fed up with it.

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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On 11 Aug 2006 11:39:29 -0700, "canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
wrote:
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I would like to point out that the email posted by Billy, as a
desperation measure of mine in an effort to terminate embarassing
discusions about me online.

As I needed and did mention that I worked Billy's text to suit the need
some of the contents within are my own words.

Oh dear Fred - you made your recommendation up? The one testimonial
you presented in your defence and you wrote it yourself?

Yes, and no one was attacking him in this thread - I had noticed the IP's
were the same(although that don't make a difference at time's) But in this
instance it did. I kept quite here. I had a feeling it was him. I told 2
people I thought that.

This comes from someone who is fighting for ethics Bill. Something that I
wanted to show he wasn't.

<snip>

Much like a lot of what you've been posting lately. Perhaps a period
of quiet reflection is called for here. By both parties.

Sorry, Bill but I have pretty much been quite all day but for 2 posts to his
the rest have been to you and John in regards to this. So, if you were tired
of it then you shouldn't have asked questions in the thread.

I apologize only that many are getting tired of it, or some aren't. All they
have to do is ignore it, real simple to do. This is the Usenet.

Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Apparently, then, checking with mine, the second coming will be a
broad UK size 12. Cuban heels, too.

Then I woke up...

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you leave my brothers alone

Big Bill wrote:

Oh dear Fred - you made your recommendation up? The one testimonial
you presented in your defence and you wrote it yourself?

This bitch Stacey immediately says

"What would be your need to know? Plus are you looking for some SEO or
what?"

I had to do something. I know the bitch is up to sonmething sneaky. I
got billy to tell me basically something to say and I put it all
together and sent it out. we are busy here you know. I or billy haven't
the time to teach him Usenet. This was damage control gone wrong.

everything else since is derived from the failed damage control plan as
they started checking the domain histories and it opened me up to all
this. the basis of their planned attack is rooted is my additions.

I would however like to note, my potential client

"That's funny enough, but seriously, wrong section to post in maybe,
but
my partner and I were looking for feedback on Fred and his work because

we like him so far. Anyways, we had a bad (really bad) time with our
web designer, so I have to ask. thanks "

made an innocent mistake, she didn't get my instructions right and
posted on this Usenet group rather than my GoogleGroups, this all
really started by an innocent mistake

I would like to also point out that I used the /.. revised to correct
spelling and grammar .../ weakly I should have been more inclusive to
include that I agdded other examples and opinions about my work to make
it a more complete ans give it a little marketing flair, but that would
have been like saying that I wrote this up myself so I decided to
exonerate myself with the smaller version. Hopefully we can leave the
judging of the ethics of that in the hands of God and not Stacey and
her compatriots of ocean crossing school bullies.

these domain have never been mine, not will they ever be, that is an
undisputed fact. anyone can verify that.

there appears to be some evidence to indicate otherwise but it still
does not dispute the underlying fact that these domain are not and
never have been mine

what boggles my mind is that, what if these were mine. why the
relentless and viciousness of the repeated attacks and angles and
public ridicule. the only answer is because they are evil people. even
if these were my domains why the destrcuction of my reputation is their
goal. Sure, I involved my past and present clients in a letter of
reference, that gives them permission to exploit it against me for all
its worth. Not only that, I lost the client now, my main new client is
worried and I'm in big at my work because this fucking shit is getting
to them to. these extortionist are going to write me a letter of
apology. that is my stand with arseholes like that who fucked a little
bit too much with me

these types of SEOs are as bad as the blackest of hats not necessarily
in code but in ways of greed driven obsessions making them equal to
black hats in my mine's eye. black hats like these
http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b...o-experts.html
dwell essentially in evil people

the jealousy enraged conspiring evildooers can not accept another's
success and in these case, these three villains can't imagine me every
succeeding in this business and seek to destroy me and will forever
more

I fought and gave up and I fought and gave up. In this game already was
my defeat. Wounded they repeatedly kicked me when I was down. Defeated
and crying "I will not drink! These sunsabitches are gonna' put mails
in their own coffins too." I will die sober before I'll ever surrender
again to these vicious monsters

"canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Big Bill wrote:

Those on the group please accept my apologies for posting to this. But the
defamation and libel must stop.

Oh dear Fred - you made your recommendation up? The one testimonial
you presented in your defense and you wrote it yourself?

This bitch Stacey immediately says

"What would be your need to know? Plus are you looking for some SEO or
what?"

Yeah, this posted it after I got your email about your agenda for this
group. Remember that email about you talking how you might go to jail
shortly for beating up or fighting with the cops . Then I was being nice as
I didn't know if this person was wanting to know about your sordid past you
told me about Fred! But now I can see it, and feel you may be totally
insane! You need some help badly.

You emailed me on the 31st of July. Then this person writes here for a
recommendation on the 1st of August. Which you told this person to do. Then
you faked your recommendation. Talk about a setup huh Fred. Yep, the next
day. Then your acting and stating I am all nervous someone will say
something vicious. It did not happen!!!

Need I also state that you mentioned me in your blog on the 5th before I
said anything about the sites you owned.

I had to do something. I know the bitch is up to something sneaky. I
got billy to tell me basically something to say and I put it all
together and sent it out. we are busy here you know. I or billy haven't
the time to teach him Usenet. This was damage control gone wrong.

What a load BS. Sorry Fred, no one made you lie and deceive. You did that on
your own. Don't try to blame anyone for what you did. You did it. Not only
that your profanity and everything else you have cause is quite a lot just
for someone exposing the truth on you. You viscously drug Dave and Jez into
this and probably would have anyone else who would disagree with you.

In fact the only ones that you think are after you are ones that disagree
with you. jJst because I have always disagreed with you, you always thought
I was after you. Plus, because I found out stuff about you, you think that
is an attack. I have been in a lot of arguments here. I have even apologized
to some of those people, and a pact is still going pretty good. But I bet
there may be another time we will duke it out or not. Never during those
did I or any of them do what you have done. The profanity and name calling,
total libel and defamation.

everything else since is derived from the failed damage control plan as
they started checking the domain histories and it opened me up to all
this. the basis of their planned attack is rooted is my additions.

Oh, boy you really can think them up can't you. The domain histories needed
to be looked at to see who owns the domains, it is done a lot(checking
domains in the Whois) not only to you. Plus you changed the registrar them
after I posted the domains. I do not know what world you live in but in this
one that is unethical.

Planned attack? Fred you have been claiming for months that you don't need
links telling people not to get links. That you do not manipulate with
links. Fact is you did and had been all a long!

Now you are thinking that because of this( this recommendation inquiry) the
attack was done? Fred you need some help, stop doing SEO the stress is
getting to you. No one wants you to go postal or anything. I am serious, I
feel you may have gone over the edge.

<snip>

made an innocent mistake, she didn't get my instructions right and
posted on this Usenet group rather than my GoogleGroups, this all
really started by an innocent mistake

#1 you should never send clients to do something like that to make yourself
look good. That is unethical. And if she posted on your Group how was she
going to get an answer there? You are the only member there BTW. Phew, Fred
I can't understand you.

I would like to also point out that I used the /.. revised to correct
spelling and grammar .../ weakly I should have been more inclusive to
include that I agdded other examples and opinions about my work to make
it a more complete ans give it a little marketing flair, but that would
have been like saying that I wrote this up myself so I decided to
exonerate myself with the smaller version. Hopefully we can leave the
judging of the ethics of that in the hands of God and not Stacey and
her compatriots of ocean crossing school bullies.

Fred, sorry it is unethical and anyone that thinks what you did isn't please
come and say so. If fact what you did was the lowest thing I could see
anyone doing is faking a recommendation on a NG. It just shows evryone how
far you go to lie and try to appear you are the best.

these domain have never been mine, not will they ever be, that is an
undisputed fact. anyone can verify that.

Anyone can verify that you were the owner before the 10th . Sorry Fred it is
in the history. Again I don't know who you are trying to kid but you were
the owner. Probably still, just under a different name.

there appears to be some evidence to indicate otherwise but it still
does not dispute the underlying fact that these domain are not and
never have been mine

There is evidence it is in the records.

what boggles my mind is that, what if these were mine. why the
relentless and viciousness of the repeated attacks and angles and
public ridicule. the only answer is because they are evil people. even
if these were my domains why the destrcuction of my reputation is their
goal.

Your destruction was done by you and you alone. You set out to destroy
others who get in your way and disagree with you. The answer why is above.
And been repeatedly stated here in the group.

Again you have stated here, elsewhere on forums, your website, your blog
and who knows else where that you do not use any type of manipulation with
links. You tell newbies to not worry about gaining links, use internal links
that they are the same as external (wrong BTW) etc. What you did was
unethical.

Sure, I involved my past and present clients in a letter of
reference, that gives them permission to exploit it against me for all
its worth. Not only that, I lost the client now, my main new client is
worried and I'm in big at my work because this fucking shit is getting
to them to. these extortionist are going to write me a letter of
apology. that is my stand with arseholes like that who fucked a little
bit too much with me

Dude how is it getting to them? I refuse to apologize. I have done nothing
wrong. BTW you need to learn what extortion is. If you have lost any clients
it is because they seen how you react. Very unprofessional.

<snip the rest of the defamation banter>

Fred get some help now. Check yourself in before it is to late.

Also you need to stop the defamation of character now. This is your *last*
warning. You will end up losing everything. Tomorrow I will turn you in to
the Competition Bureau of Ca., I can't get to see the lawyer until Tuesday
so this better be stopped. Although, I can still seek legal action for what
you have done already and written even if you do stop, but I will be nice
not to. Remember what I had brought forward was the truth and can be
proven. If all the stuff is still around on your blog and if you keep it up
here, you will be turned in tomorrow (later today it seems). As a reminder
yes Google has been notified. I can notify Yahoo and MSN also.

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/i...itemID=18&lg=e

False or misleading representations: When materially false or misleading
representations are made knowingly or recklessly to the public.

Stacey

On 11 Aug 2006 17:53:50 -0700, "canadafred" <canadian_web (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Big Bill wrote:

Oh dear Fred - you made your recommendation up? The one testimonial
you presented in your defence and you wrote it yourself?

<snip crap>

Fred, go to Daniweb and stay there!

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