Reference on Fred Joly

#**131**

On 16 Aug 2006 00:51:46 -0700, lastwhiteknights (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

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Big Bill wrote:
This isn't morals, it's business.

I said ethics, not morals. Have you never heard of business ethics?

No.

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It has to do with no one ever voting for politicians again if they
allow this to happen.

I never voted anyway, I believe that a society run by politicians for
their own benefit is an unworkable societal model.

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It has to do with AOL losing its customers (and
having to move to a free service model) since their clients realized
how the scam works and AOL is losing like 25% of their cusomers every
month.

Doesn't bother me!

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Senators are elected to protect communities

Are you calling what they did to the WTC "protection"?
Is the patriot act "protection"?

I'm not familiar with them.

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1% of our population is in prison.

So what? Maybe they should be.

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With all this "protecting" going on, who is protecting our
constitutional rights?

I wouldn't know what they were.

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and that means looking
after the major business players in those communities, the big
employers.

Did you say big employers or big campaign donators? I can't hear with
all the telecom tower construction going on here. They have so many
workers.

Same thing.

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"AT&T's top IT exec says automation of its IT systems will let it shed
more than 12,000 jobs this year without hurting its network or
service."

It still makes money. If it's based in County BB and I run it then I
expect the senator for that county to do what I tell him. Laying off
workers nationwide means I have more profits to spend in my county -
assuming that's where I spend them, of course.

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So who was protecting the 12,000 people who lost their jobs this year?

No-one if they were spread nationwide. You can't work that out?

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Hmm 12,000 x $20,000/year = just enough to pay off congress

They work very closely with the NSA. They already are watching.
Remember they admitted to recording every phone conversation and email
message?

And they store this in which fantasy?

"The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone
call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by
AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the
arrangement told USA TODAY."

read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...5-10-nsa_x.htm

Ah. Phone call records or recordings of phone calls? There's a
difference. I don't care if someone knows I called whatever number as
I could have been talking about the price of fish.

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Don't let them take this tool away from us just because they have
enough money to buy the rules. We, the people, own the internet

We do? Why am I having to pay for it then?

You do not pay for the Internet, and you know that.

Computer, modem, broadband etc. I have to pay for access which is the
same thing.

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The Internet will
(hopefully) still be here after you're dead. You pay to rent a server
to host your site because you can't afford to buy your own. You also
pay a connection fee that should cover the cost of the infrastructure,
wires, satellites, and all (but the cost is bent by greedy telecom
monopolies). Internet will be in some cities via Wi-Fi, regulated (and
paid for) by the city governments (your taxes).

It'll also be hacked.

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This is very real and is happening right now. If you care about
freedom at all, please sign the petition and write to your senators.

The good guys are: Google, eBay, most Intenet Icons

That's because this will hit their incomes, if it really happens. They
aren't good guys, just guys.

They ARE good guys. eBay is an American icon for Entrepreneurialship

Yeah?

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and Google is a beacon for universal, multi-cultural diversity and
sharing - (theoretically) without bias.

Except in China.

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Why do you think you are here?

Because Google doesn't sell out like our government.

Except in China.

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Google became
popular because they were bold enough to give us the truth instead of
telling us who pays them the most MONEY.

I missed that but I expect they thought appearing to tell the truth
was best for business. And you bought that, didn't you, you sucked it
all the wa-a-a-a-a-y up!

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#**132**

Big Bill wrote:

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I never voted anyway, I believe that a society run by politicians for
their own benefit is an unworkable societal model.

I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

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Are you calling what they did to the WTC "protection"?
Is the patriot act "protection"?

I'm not familiar with them.

1933-2001 History repeats itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

In 1933 (Pre-WWII), Hitler set fire to his own Parliament building and
blamed the Communist party.

In 2001, Bush demolished the WTC and blamed terrorists.

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1% of our population is in prison.

So what? Maybe they should be.

Well, people that are more intelligent and better read than you are
laughing at us - in countries all over the world. 1/100 people in jail
is an embarrasment.

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With all this "protecting" going on, who is protecting our
constitutional rights?

I wouldn't know what they were.

Your right to free speech that you take for granted.

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and that means looking
after the major business players in those communities, the big
employers.

Did you say big employers or big campaign donators? I can't hear with
all the telecom tower construction going on here. They have so many
workers.

Same thing.

No it isn't. Employers create jobs and benefit society.

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It still makes money. If it's based in County BB and I run it then I
expect the senator for that county to do what I tell him. Laying off
workers nationwide means I have more profits to spend in my county -
assuming that's where I spend them, of course.

Do you also assume that the 12,000 AT&T workers that lost their jobs
are spending money in their counties?

#**133**

On 16 Aug 2006 10:52:47 -0700, lastwhiteknights (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

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Big Bill wrote:
I never voted anyway, I believe that a society run by politicians for
their own benefit is an unworkable societal model.

I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

I don't eat it, that's why I won't vote for it.

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Are you calling what they did to the WTC "protection"?
Is the patriot act "protection"?

I'm not familiar with them.

1933-2001 History repeats itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

In 1933 (Pre-WWII), Hitler set fire to his own Parliament building and
blamed the Communist party.

In 2001, Bush demolished the WTC and blamed terrorists.

1% of our population is in prison.

So what? Maybe they should be.

Well, people that are more intelligent and better read

You know these people personally, do you?

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than you are
laughing at us - in countries all over the world. 1/100 people in jail
is an embarrasment.

At least you have jails, here we've run out.

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With all this "protecting" going on, who is protecting our
constitutional rights?

I wouldn't know what they were.

Your right to free speech that you take for granted.

We don't really have that here, there's libel and slander and such.
Thing is it costs big-time money to go to court so the rich can say
what they like about the poor with impunity. So the idea of free
speech is a bit of a joke.

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and that means looking
after the major business players in those communities, the big
employers.

Did you say big employers or big campaign donators? I can't hear with
all the telecom tower construction going on here. They have so many
workers.

Same thing.

No it isn't. Employers create jobs and benefit society.

Erm, not necessarily, it depends on what the people do. Tesco doesn't
create jobs locally, it destroys them along with the atmosphere, and
in the process feeds people with a bunch of pesticides and additives
that will make quite possibly them sick in the long term generating
huge hospital bills that the country can't pay because Tesco money
goes out of the country to its shareholders. Allegedly :-)) I can't
see how that benefits society. But, if you live in the immediate
vicinity of a Tesco shareholder, then you may be right as they'll have
more money to spread locally.

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It still makes money. If it's based in County BB and I run it then I
expect the senator for that county to do what I tell him. Laying off
workers nationwide means I have more profits to spend in my county -
assuming that's where I spend them, of course.

Do you also assume that the 12,000 AT&T workers that lost their jobs
are spending money in their counties?

Hell no, see above.

BB
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#**134**

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:45:39 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

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I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

I don't eat it, that's why I won't vote for it.

And yet the schoolboy wants to feed us his shit to eat :/
I'll be glad when they go back from their summer holidays.
You never know, he may realise this is not a politcal group, but his
IQ doesn't reach double figures, so it looks like you will be seeing
his tosh for some time.

plh
Paul

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#**135**

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I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

I don't eat it, that's why I won't vote for it.

Or are you already chewing on it, because you failed to vote?

If you don't like it = vote against it, or you won't have the luxury of
choosing. Unless you are too weak (or stupid in Paul's case) to stand
up for yourself; you will have to rely on the people around you to
stand up for you and your family while you cower in the corner.

#**136**

On 16 Aug 2006 16:14:37 -0700, lastwhiteknights (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

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I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

I don't eat it, that's why I won't vote for it.

Or are you already chewing on it, because you failed to vote?

I don't vote you little wart infested ball bag. Don't you listen ?

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If you don't like it = vote against it, or you won't have the luxury of
choosing. Unless you are too weak (or stupid in Paul's case)

Listen here you stupid little prick. I live in the UK
I dont give a fuck about your school homework.

You fucking loser.

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to stand up for yourself; you will have to rely on the people around you to
stand up for you and your family while you cower in the corner.

I'd rather cower in the corner than listen to your bullshit.
Now fuck off and wait for your special uncle to bounce you on his
knee.

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#**137**

Paul wrote:

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Or are you already chewing on it, because you failed to vote?
I don't vote you little wart infested ball bag. Don't you listen ?

So what does shit taste like, coward?

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I'd rather cower in the corner than listen to your bullshit.

Or under a bridge. Right, troll?

#**138**

On 16 Aug 2006 16:14:37 -0700, lastwhiteknights (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

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I guess it doesn't really matter what you believe, then. If you just
sit there like a pussy, refusing to stand up like a man, they will
decide your destiny for you. If they feed you shit, don't eat it.

I don't eat it, that's why I won't vote for it.

Or are you already chewing on it, because you failed to vote?

I don't vote because voting supports the system that has me at the
bottom of it. Vote black, vote white, it's suggests acceptance of a
system I don't endorse. It can't be democracy if you can't vote
against it...

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If you don't like it = vote against it, or you won't have the luxury of
choosing. Unless you are too weak (or stupid in Paul's case) to stand
up for yourself; you will have to rely on the people around you to
stand up for you and your family while you cower in the corner.

You really aren't getting this, are you? With such poor advocates, no
wonder net neutrality is going.

BB
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