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Karla
 
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Default Exact Search v/s all the words - 05-15-2008 , 09:23 AM






I have a web site that is rank as number 1 on page 1 for an exact search
where you use quotes around the search terms in google, but at an all
the words normal search my site is no where to be found. This seems
crazy to me and I wonder if anybody else has that happening to them and
if anybody knows why that happens and how to fix that if possible?

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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: Exact Search v/s all the words - 05-15-2008 , 10:11 AM






"Karla" <karlap32 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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I have a web site that is rank as number 1 on page 1 for an exact search
where you use quotes around the search terms in google, but at an all
the words normal search my site is no where to be found. This seems
crazy to me and I wonder if anybody else has that happening to them and
if anybody knows why that happens and how to fix that if possible?
It doesn't happen to people or to websites, it happens to search results.

And it's not crazy at all.

"Lemmings eat bananas" is a pretty unlikely statement, so finding zero
results would be expected.

If you added "Lemmings eat bananas" to your site, you could get that #1
position. But so waht, if no-one searches for it.

On the other hand, [Lemmings eat bananas], no quotes, therefore appearing
anywhere on the page, is much more common - and therefore much nmore
difficut to get that #1 spot.

What's crazy about that?
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Default Re: Exact Search v/s all the words - 05-15-2008 , 10:54 AM






Karla wrote:

Quote:
I have a web site that is rank as number 1 on page 1 for an exact search
where you use quotes around the search terms in google, but at an all
the words normal search my site is no where to be found. This seems
crazy to me and I wonder if anybody else has that happening to them and
if anybody knows why that happens and how to fix that if possible?
It is difficult to help you without looking at the actual search.
Any particular reason why you aren't revealing your URL and keywords?

As for it seeming "crazy", why would you think that?

Do a Google search on [ "electrical engineer resume" ] and my
page at <http://www.guymacon.com/> comes out on top. Do a
Google search on [ electrical engineer resume ] (same search,
no quotes) and I am #2. That's because everything about my
page (title, etc.) tells Google that the topic of my page is
the phrase "electrical engineer resume", while the page at
jobbankusa.com is sending Google the message that the topic of
that page is the phrase "electrical engineer sample resume."

This means that someone searching (no quotes) for the words
electrical, engineer, and resume without specifying any order
gets the jobbankusa.com page at the top, because both it and
my page have all of those words and they have more links to
them than I do. On the other hand, someone searching for the
phrase "electrical engineer resume" will see that phrase in my
title and on my page, while that particular phrase is not
found on the jobbankusa.com page, so it drops off entirely.

There is nothing crazy about that; it's just Google figuring
out what each page is about, and doing a fine job of it;
someone looking for a sample of an electrical engineer
resume gets what they are looking for, and someone looking
for a resume of an electrical engineer gets what *they* are
looking for. I don't particularly desire someone who is
looking for a sample while writing a resume to find my page,
and jobbankusa.com doesn't particularly desire someone who
is looking to hire an electrical engineer to find their page
with the sample resume.








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Default Re: Exact Search v/s all the words - 05-15-2008 , 11:17 AM



On May 15, 3:54*pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
Quote:
Karla wrote:
I have a web site that is rank as number 1 on page 1 for an exact search
where you use quotes around the search terms in google, but at an all
the words normal search my site is no where to be found. This seems
crazy to me and I wonder if anybody else has that happening to them and
if anybody knows why that happens and how to fix that if possible?

It is difficult to help you without looking at the actual search.
Any particular reason why you aren't revealing your URL and keywords?

As for it seeming "crazy", why would you think that?

Do a Google search on [ "electrical engineer resume" ] and my
page at <http://www.guymacon.com/> comes out on top. *Do a
Google search on [ electrical engineer resume ] (same search,
no quotes) and I am #2. *That's because everything about my
page (title, etc.) tells Google that the topic of my page is
the phrase "electrical engineer resume", while the page at
jobbankusa.com is sending Google the message that the topic of
that page is the phrase "electrical engineer sample resume."

This means that someone searching (no quotes) for the words
electrical, engineer, and resume without specifying any order
gets the jobbankusa.com page at the top, because both it and
my page have all of those words and they have more links to
them than I do. *On the other hand, someone searching for the
phrase "electrical engineer resume" will see that phrase in my
title and on my page, while that particular phrase is not
found on the jobbankusa.com page, so it drops off entirely.

There is nothing crazy about that; it's just Google figuring
out what each page is about, and doing a fine job of it;
someone looking for a sample of an electrical engineer
resume gets what they are looking for, and someone looking
for a resume of an electrical engineer gets what *they* are
looking for. *I don't particularly desire someone who is
looking for a sample while writing a resume to find my page,
and jobbankusa.com doesn't particularly desire someone who
is looking to hire an electrical engineer to find their page
with the sample resume.

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good post!

mark


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Default Re: Exact Search v/s all the words - 05-16-2008 , 12:38 AM



On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:23:56 -0700, Karla <karlap32 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I have a web site that is rank as number 1 on page 1 for an exact search
where you use quotes around the search terms in google, but at an all
the words normal search my site is no where to be found. This seems
crazy to me and I wonder if anybody else has that happening to them and
if anybody knows why that happens and how to fix that if possible?
This is a bit old now but still relevant;

http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-competition.htm

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