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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 01:10 PM






"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote

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I just recently learned about how outbound links can affect the total PR
of a site.
Yeah, not that much though. It all depends how much you have goin g out.

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I realised that most of my pages had several outbound links (several of
them had more outbound than inbound), and some of
them are even small webdirectories on different topics built by me.
Do the benefits of the links help your site? Like are they related to the
content?


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Now I have inserted the rel="nofollow" on most outbund links, except for
the ones I for some reason consider "friends"

1. Would you consider this an unethical behaviour of me?
Not really, if the links are not giving some back in return.

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2. Is the use of rel="nofollow" sometimes penalised by search engines?
Nope.

Stacey




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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 01:20 PM






Stacey wrote:

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"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote in message
news:429deabe$0$18649$14726298 (AT) news (DOT) sunsite.dk...

I just recently learned about how outbound links can affect the total PR
of a site.

Yeah, not that much though. It all depends how much you have going out.
I never knew linking was a 'crime'. Pages without links are poorer to the
reader because they are a narrow. Imagine yourself a paper without
citations.

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I realised that most of my pages had several outbound links (several of
them had more outbound than inbound), and some of
them are even small webdirectories on different topics built by me.

Do the benefits of the links help your site? Like are they related to the
content?

I think that unrealted links should result in no PR gain to the receiver; no
penalty to the linking side...


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Now I have inserted the rel="nofollow" on most outbund links, except for
the ones I for some reason consider "friends"

1. Would you consider this an unethical behaviour of me?

Not really, if the links are not giving some back in return.

If your site is large enough, I think you might be throwing away valuable
time. You will be better off extending your content or adding sub-pages.


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2. Is the use of rel="nofollow" sometimes penalised by search engines?

Nope.
Never should. Bear in mind that when using rel="nofollow", you prevent the
linked site from knowing about your existence and perhaps giving you
something in return.


Roy

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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 01:21 PM



"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote

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"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:b_lne.24591$Fv.16034 (AT) lakeread01 (DOT) ..
"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote in message
news:429deabe$0$18649$14726298 (AT) news (DOT) sunsite.dk...
I just recently learned about how outbound links can affect the total
PR
of a site.

Yeah, not that much though. It all depends how much you have goin g
out.

Quite a lot on some, though not all, pages.

I realised that most of my pages had several outbound links (several
of them had more outbound than inbound), and some of
them are even small webdirectories on different topics built by me.

Do the benefits of the links help your site? Like are they related to
the content?

Yes, all of them are. None of them are there for commercial reasons.
(And my site is not commercial of nature even though I do some work for
a not-for-profit Spanish school).
Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing links
can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be followed.

<snip>

Stacey




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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 01:37 PM



"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

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Stacey wrote:

"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote in message
news:429deabe$0$18649$14726298 (AT) news (DOT) sunsite.dk...

I just recently learned about how outbound links can affect the total PR
of a site.

Yeah, not that much though. It all depends how much you have going out.

I never knew linking was a 'crime'. Pages without links are poorer to the
reader because they are a narrow. Imagine yourself a paper without
citations.

Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related links
going out. Not good for your paper for someone wanting to read it or someone
wanting to publish it.

So, it depends on how much you have going out!

Stacey




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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 02:03 PM



Stacey wrote:

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Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related
links going out.
Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.

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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 02:10 PM



"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

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Stacey wrote:

Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related
links going out.

Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.
Of course it is...that is why you don't want to do that. Which is why I
stated as you snipped it off. *Not good for your paper for someone wanting
to read it or someone wanting to publish it.*

Stacey




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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 02:35 PM



On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:20:36 +0200, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

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I never knew linking was a 'crime'. Pages without links are poorer to the
reader because they are a narrow. Imagine yourself a paper without
citations.
But - if you analyze PR agorithm - every oubound link decreases
sum of your page PR's. What is more benefcial for the site is up
to you to decide.

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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 02:53 PM



Stacey wrote:

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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Stacey wrote:

Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related
links going out.

Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.

Of course it is...that is why you don't want to do that. Which is why
I stated as you snipped it off. *Not good for your paper for someone
wanting to read it or someone wanting to publish it.*
That's normally the point of writing a paper. And since "here" we talk
about websites, publishing is implied.

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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 03:27 PM



"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

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Stacey wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns966884C00CEA3castleamber (AT) 130 (DOT) 133.1.4...
Stacey wrote:

Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related
links going out.

Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.

Of course it is...that is why you don't want to do that. Which is why
I stated as you snipped it off. *Not good for your paper for someone
wanting to read it or someone wanting to publish it.*

That's normally the point of writing a paper. And since "here" we talk
about websites, publishing is implied.
No shit really? Post your crap to *others* talking about a paper...or follow
the thread and stop twisting the postings around!

Stacey




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Default Re: rel="nofollow" - 06-01-2005 , 04:00 PM



"Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer" <mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote

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"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:f8mne.24592$Fv.6666 (AT) lakeread01 (DOT) ..

Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing links
can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be followed.

How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back to
me?
Your site is about Spanish right? Those links should have link text(anchor
text) to the other pages with Spanish or something related to it. Link text
is weighed more than normal text. Your page will be more related or relevant
to Spanish also because it will be leading to more content.

Stacey




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