1st Page Google in 1 week?

Hello,

I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one week
for $1000.

My site has been online for about 5 or 6 months and we are generally on
the first page of Yahoo and MSN searches for our keywords -- but are
absent on Google. We are #1 on MSN for our business name, but the
competition is #1 for our business name on Google (!).

I've done everything that I know to get listed on Google -- we have lots
of back links. Our Page Rank has climbed up to 3 and is rising. There
are lots of keywords in the title, in the text, the alt and title text,
the image names... The code validates except for one "onload" error from
Fireworks-generated JavaScript that I never fixed.

I would be completely skeptical about a claim to put us on the first
page of Google results except that he put an advertisement targeting our
keywords and it went to the first page of Google for our keywords in what
had to be between 1 and 2 weeks.

Can anyone tell me how this was done? I didn't know that it was possible.
There are no backlinks to his page that targets our keywords.

I thought I knew a little but about SEO, but I am stumped on this one. I
figured that we weren't on Google yet because of the Google "sandbox"
effect.

Can anyone recommend some good print books about SEO? I've been reading
websites, but now I realize I need to get a good book or two.

How is it possible to get a page to the first page of Google within one
week? I would have thought it is nearly impossible.

Thanks

"Don" <smidon (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On 28 Apr 2005 info wrote in alt.internet.search-engines


I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one week
for $1000.

Tell them they have a deal but they get their $1000 only after they get
you
in the top 10 on Google in one week and keep you there for at least 6
months.

--
Don

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:19:56 -0400, info <info (AT) n0mail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello,

I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one week
for $1000.

My site has been online for about 5 or 6 months and we are generally on
the first page of Yahoo and MSN searches for our keywords -- but are
absent on Google. We are #1 on MSN for our business name, but the
competition is #1 for our business name on Google (!).

I've done everything that I know to get listed on Google -- we have lots
of back links. Our Page Rank has climbed up to 3 and is rising. There
are lots of keywords in the title,

Possibly too many. You realise you do need to focus a page on one or
two key phrases? Want to let us peek at the url?

in the text, the alt and title text,
the image names... The code validates except for one "onload" error from
Fireworks-generated JavaScript that I never fixed.

I would be completely skeptical about a claim to put us on the first
page of Google results except that he put an advertisement targeting our
keywords and it went to the first page of Google for our keywords in what
had to be between 1 and 2 weeks.

Can anyone tell me how this was done? I didn't know that it was possible.
There are no backlinks to his page that targets our keywords.

Is this this ping thing I keep hearing about? I've not looked into it
yet. And I think we'll be better judges of what links he does or
doesn't have. If, of course, you give us the details otherwise we're
in the dark.

BB

I thought I knew a little but about SEO, but I am stumped on this one. I
figured that we weren't on Google yet because of the Google "sandbox"
effect.

Can anyone recommend some good print books about SEO? I've been reading
websites, but now I realize I need to get a good book or two.

How is it possible to get a page to the first page of Google within one
week? I would have thought it is nearly impossible.

Thanks

--
www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
seo that watches the river flow...
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mark | r wrote:

"Don" <smidon (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns9646F40B915Fnone (AT) 207 (DOT) 217.125.201...
On 28 Apr 2005 info wrote in alt.internet.search-engines


I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one
week for $1000.

Tell them they have a deal but they get their $1000 only after they get
you
in the top 10 on Google in one week and keep you there for at least 6
months.

--
Don

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark

http://www.yahoo-store-builder.com/News/new_google.htm

"Google favors new sites found in this manner so well that they often climb
the rankings rapidly, at least for a while. Google seems to give a boost
to sites that it finds through these backward links for about a week or
two. Then, you're site might disappear while the Google Master Computer
chews on all of the new data it receives. Then, after a time, your site's
ranking will slowly stabilize. And if you've done it right, you'll end up
sitting pretty."

That someone you have been in contact with must be exploiting this
observation.

Roy

--
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http://Schestowitz.com

mark | r wrote:

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from
view

Not everybody has this problem. I still don't see it with one of "my"
sites. Yes it is new, and no, it's not competetive (I hope, lol).

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

"Google favors new sites found in this manner so well that they often
climb the rankings rapidly, at least for a while. Google seems to
give a boost to sites that it finds through these backward links for
about a week or two. Then, you're site might disappear while the
Google Master Computer chews on all of the new data it receives.
Then, after a time, your site's ranking will slowly stabilize. And if
you've done it right, you'll end up sitting pretty."

Note the use of the words "seems" and moreover "might".

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Experienced (web) developer: http://castleamber.com/
Get a SEO report of your site for just 100 USD:
http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/seo-expert-help.html

mark | r wrote:

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark

Just to note that the poster seems to have a site that has been in
Google for some time. I would want to know in general terms what the guy
will do for his $1000 - if he claims it is secret then walk, you don't
want your site banned for some dodgy SEO.

As someone mentioned a while back some of these SEOers take on dozens of
sites with the hope of at least getting some to rank well and refunding
the difference for the rest. Of course this means they are probably not
spending much time on each site.



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http://www.abcseo.com/

"davidof" <david.george (AT) g-dumpthisbit-mail (DOT) com> wrote

mark | r wrote:
this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from
view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark


Just to note that the poster seems to have a site that has been in
Google for some time. I would want to know in general terms what the guy
will do for his $1000 - if he claims it is secret then walk, you don't
want your site banned for some dodgy SEO.

As someone mentioned a while back some of these SEOers take on dozens of
sites with the hope of at least getting some to rank well and refunding
the difference for the rest. Of course this means they are probably not
spending much time on each site.

yeah thats my experience in the past (Even with bog companies such as IO
Mark who 'guaranteed' me a top position)

mark

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:02:22 +0100, "mark | r" <markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

"Don" <smidon (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns9646F40B915Fnone (AT) 207 (DOT) 217.125.201...
On 28 Apr 2005 info wrote in alt.internet.search-engines


I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one week
for $1000.

Tell them they have a deal but they get their $1000 only after they get
you
in the top 10 on Google in one week and keep you there for at least 6
months.

--
Don

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark

True, but not for named keywords, which seems to be the suggestion.

BB
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seo that watches the river flow...
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:10:50 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

mark | r wrote:


"Don" <smidon (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns9646F40B915Fnone (AT) 207 (DOT) 217.125.201...
On 28 Apr 2005 info wrote in alt.internet.search-engines


I have been in contact with someone who claims that they can get my
website on the first page of Google results for our keywords in one
week for $1000.

Tell them they have a deal but they get their $1000 only after they get
you
in the top 10 on Google in one week and keep you there for at least 6
months.

--
Don

this needs explaining - google gives new sites an artificially high
placement for a short period of time then promptly hides it away from view
so £1000 is a lot to pay for something google does anyway
mark

http://www.yahoo-store-builder.com/News/new_google.htm

"Google favors new sites found in this manner so well that they often climb
the rankings rapidly, at least for a while. Google seems to give a boost
to sites that it finds through these backward links for about a week or
two. Then, you're site might disappear while the Google Master Computer
chews on all of the new data it receives. Then, after a time, your site's
ranking will slowly stabilize. And if you've done it right, you'll end up
sitting pretty."

That someone you have been in contact with must be exploiting this
observation.

Roy

Or reading what I wrote about it bleedin' ages ago.
www.kruse.co.uk/sandbox.htm

BB
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seo that watches the river flow...
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