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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-08-2004 , 06:26 PM






On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

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I'm also the only person on this NG posting their failures at SEO in
great detail so others can learn from my mistakes. I adapt as I
discover new information.

Maybe you're the only regular on this group actually still making
mistakes.
Don't think so Bill, take a look at your own sites for good examples
:-)

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And boorish and churlish are hardly Middle English. Read a
paper or two that's not a tabloid.
I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-08-2004 , 09:04 PM







"SEO Dave" <seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
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Quote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:


I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

David
Echo was a beautiful nymph, fond of the woods and hills, where she devoted
herself to woodland sports. She was a favorite of Artemis, and attended her
in the chase. But Echo had one failing; she was fond of talking, and whether
in chat or argument, would have the last word. One day Hera was seeking her
husband, who, she had reason to fear, was amusing himself among the nymphs.
Echo by her talk contrived to detain the goddess till the nymphs made their
escape. When Hera discovered it, she passed sentence upon Echo in these
words: "You shall forfeit the use of that tongue with which you have cheated
me, except for that one purpose you are so fond of - reply. You shall still
have the last word, but no power to speak first."

This nymph saw Narcissus, a beautiful youth, as he pursued the chase upon
the mountains. She loved him and followed his footsteps. O how she longed to
address him in the softest accents, and win him to converse! But it was not
in her power. She waited with impatience for him to speak first, and had her
answer ready. One day the youth, being separated from his companions,
shouted aloud, "Who's here?" Echo replied, "Here." Narcissus looked around,
but seeing no one called out, "Come". Echo answered, "Come." As no one came,
Narcissus called again, "Why do you shun me?" Echo, asked the same question.
"Let us join one another," said the youth. The maid answered with all her
heart in the same words, and hastened to the spot, ready to throw her arms
about his neck. He started back, exclaiming, "Hands off! I would rather die
than you should have me!" "Have me," said she; but it was all in vain. He
left her, and she went to hide her blushes in the recesses of the woods.
From that time forth she lived in caves till at last all her flesh shrank
away. Her bones were changed into rocks and there was nothing left of her
but her voice. With that she is still ready to reply to any one who calls
her, and keeps up her old habit of having the last word.




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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-08-2004 , 10:25 PM



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:04:10 -0700, "Gateway Farm"
<johnwmerrell (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
"SEO Dave" <seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:ih6dh0la6ree96d5fqeait0ar6e1et4peu (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:


I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

David

Echo was a beautiful nymph, fond of the woods and hills, where she devoted
herself to woodland sports. She was a favorite of Artemis, and attended her
in the chase. But Echo had one failing; she was fond of talking, and whether
in chat or argument, would have the last word. One day Hera was seeking her
husband, who, she had reason to fear, was amusing himself among the nymphs.
Echo by her talk contrived to detain the goddess till the nymphs made their
escape. When Hera discovered it, she passed sentence upon Echo in these
words: "You shall forfeit the use of that tongue with which you have cheated
me, except for that one purpose you are so fond of - reply. You shall still
have the last word, but no power to speak first."

This nymph saw Narcissus, a beautiful youth, as he pursued the chase upon
the mountains. She loved him and followed his footsteps. O how she longed to
address him in the softest accents, and win him to converse! But it was not
in her power. She waited with impatience for him to speak first, and had her
answer ready. One day the youth, being separated from his companions,
shouted aloud, "Who's here?" Echo replied, "Here." Narcissus looked around,
but seeing no one called out, "Come". Echo answered, "Come." As no one came,
Narcissus called again, "Why do you shun me?" Echo, asked the same question.
"Let us join one another," said the youth. The maid answered with all her
heart in the same words, and hastened to the spot, ready to throw her arms
about his neck. He started back, exclaiming, "Hands off! I would rather die
than you should have me!" "Have me," said she; but it was all in vain. He
left her, and she went to hide her blushes in the recesses of the woods.
From that time forth she lived in caves till at last all her flesh shrank
away. Her bones were changed into rocks and there was nothing left of her
but her voice. With that she is still ready to reply to any one who calls
her, and keeps up her old habit of having the last word.

He rose slowly and crossed the room, dragging his big feet
heavily as though they were burdens to him. He looked out of the
window into the hog corral and saw the pigs burying themselves in
the straw before the shed. The leaden gray clouds were beginning
to spill themselves, and the snow flakes were settling down over
the white leprous patches of frozen earth where the hogs had gnawed
even the sod away. He shuddered and began to walk, trampling
heavily with his ungainly feet. He was the wreck of ten winters on
the Divide and he knew what that meant. Men fear the winters of
the Divide as a child fears night or as men in the North Seas fear
the still dark cold of the polar twilight. His eyes fell upon his
gun, and he took it down from the wall and looked it over. He sat
down on the edge of his bed and held the barrel towards his face,
letting his forehead rest upon it, and laid his finger on the
trigger. He was perfectly calm, there was neither passion nor
despair in his face, but the thoughtful look of a man who is
considering. Presently he laid down the gun, and reaching into the
cupboard, drew out a pint bottle of raw white alcohol. Lifting it
to his lips, he drank greedily. He washed his face in the tin
basin and combed his rough hair and shaggy blond beard. Then he
stood in uncertainty before the suit of dark clothes that hung on
the wall. For the fiftieth time he took them in his hands and
tried to summon courage to put them on. He took the paper collar
that was pinned to the sleeve of the coat and cautiously slipped it
under his rough beard, looking with timid expectancy into the
cracked, splashed glass that hung over the bench. With a short
laugh he threw it down on the bed, and pulling on his old
black hat, he went out, striking off across the level.

It was a physical necessity for him to get away from his cabin
once in a while. He had been there for ten years, digging and
plowing and sowing, and reaping what little the hail and the hot
winds and the frosts left him to reap. Insanity and suicide are
very common things on the Divide. They come on like an epidemic in
the hot wind season. Those scorching dusty winds that blow up over
the bluffs from Kansas seem to dry up the blood in men's veins as
they do the sap in the corn leaves. Whenever the yellow scorch
creeps down over the tender inside leaves about the ear, then the
coroners prepare for active duty; for the oil of the country is
burned out and it does not take long for the flame to eat up the
wick. It causes no great sensation there when a Dane is found
swinging to his own windmill tower, and most of the Poles after
they have become too careless and discouraged to shave themselves
keep their razors to cut their throats with.

David
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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 01:45 AM



On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:26:54 GMT, SEO Dave
<seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:

I'm also the only person on this NG posting their failures at SEO in
great detail so others can learn from my mistakes. I adapt as I
discover new information.

Maybe you're the only regular on this group actually still making
mistakes.

Don't think so Bill, take a look at your own sites for good examples
:-)
There's a ton wrong with all my old sites because they are all old and
need updating. Much like myself (sigh). There's also precisely no
sites I've ever optimised that I'm happy to lay claim to because I've
never been allowed to do what I wanted on them. Just an approximation
of it. Like, optimise this but don't change the look. Or the feel. Or
the code. Doh! And even so I'm rushed off my feet so I dunno where you
get the time to do all this testing you do, or to argue with Sam.

BB

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And boorish and churlish are hardly Middle English. Read a
paper or two that's not a tabloid.

I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

BB

David


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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 01:45 AM



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:04:10 -0700, "Gateway Farm"
<johnwmerrell (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
"SEO Dave" <seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:ih6dh0la6ree96d5fqeait0ar6e1et4peu (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:


I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

David

Echo was a beautiful nymph, fond of the woods and hills, where she devoted
herself to woodland sports. She was a favorite of Artemis, and attended her
in the chase. But Echo had one failing; she was fond of talking, and whether
in chat or argument, would have the last word. One day Hera was seeking her
husband, who, she had reason to fear, was amusing himself among the nymphs.
Echo by her talk contrived to detain the goddess till the nymphs made their
escape. When Hera discovered it, she passed sentence upon Echo in these
words: "You shall forfeit the use of that tongue with which you have cheated
me, except for that one purpose you are so fond of - reply. You shall still
have the last word, but no power to speak first."

This nymph saw Narcissus, a beautiful youth, as he pursued the chase upon
the mountains. She loved him and followed his footsteps. O how she longed to
address him in the softest accents, and win him to converse! But it was not
in her power. She waited with impatience for him to speak first, and had her
answer ready. One day the youth, being separated from his companions,
shouted aloud, "Who's here?" Echo replied, "Here." Narcissus looked around,
but seeing no one called out, "Come". Echo answered, "Come." As no one came,
Narcissus called again, "Why do you shun me?" Echo, asked the same question.
"Let us join one another," said the youth. The maid answered with all her
heart in the same words, and hastened to the spot, ready to throw her arms
about his neck. He started back, exclaiming, "Hands off! I would rather die
than you should have me!" "Have me," said she; but it was all in vain. He
left her, and she went to hide her blushes in the recesses of the woods.
From that time forth she lived in caves till at last all her flesh shrank
away. Her bones were changed into rocks and there was nothing left of her
but her voice. With that she is still ready to reply to any one who calls
her, and keeps up her old habit of having the last word.

Word.

BB


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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 01:45 AM



On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 02:25:11 GMT, SEO Dave
<seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:04:10 -0700, "Gateway Farm"
johnwmerrell (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:


"SEO Dave" <seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:ih6dh0la6ree96d5fqeait0ar6e1et4peu (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:


I don't read newspapers due to the lack of balance in their views.

David

Echo was a beautiful nymph, fond of the woods and hills, where she devoted
herself to woodland sports. She was a favorite of Artemis, and attended her
in the chase. But Echo had one failing; she was fond of talking, and whether
in chat or argument, would have the last word. One day Hera was seeking her
husband, who, she had reason to fear, was amusing himself among the nymphs.
Echo by her talk contrived to detain the goddess till the nymphs made their
escape. When Hera discovered it, she passed sentence upon Echo in these
words: "You shall forfeit the use of that tongue with which you have cheated
me, except for that one purpose you are so fond of - reply. You shall still
have the last word, but no power to speak first."

This nymph saw Narcissus, a beautiful youth, as he pursued the chase upon
the mountains. She loved him and followed his footsteps. O how she longed to
address him in the softest accents, and win him to converse! But it was not
in her power. She waited with impatience for him to speak first, and had her
answer ready. One day the youth, being separated from his companions,
shouted aloud, "Who's here?" Echo replied, "Here." Narcissus looked around,
but seeing no one called out, "Come". Echo answered, "Come." As no one came,
Narcissus called again, "Why do you shun me?" Echo, asked the same question.
"Let us join one another," said the youth. The maid answered with all her
heart in the same words, and hastened to the spot, ready to throw her arms
about his neck. He started back, exclaiming, "Hands off! I would rather die
than you should have me!" "Have me," said she; but it was all in vain. He
left her, and she went to hide her blushes in the recesses of the woods.
From that time forth she lived in caves till at last all her flesh shrank
away. Her bones were changed into rocks and there was nothing left of her
but her voice. With that she is still ready to reply to any one who calls
her, and keeps up her old habit of having the last word.


He rose slowly and crossed the room, dragging his big feet
heavily as though they were burdens to him. He looked out of the
window into the hog corral and saw the pigs burying themselves in
the straw before the shed. The leaden gray clouds were beginning
to spill themselves, and the snow flakes were settling down over
the white leprous patches of frozen earth where the hogs had gnawed
even the sod away. He shuddered and began to walk, trampling
heavily with his ungainly feet. He was the wreck of ten winters on
the Divide and he knew what that meant. Men fear the winters of
the Divide as a child fears night or as men in the North Seas fear
the still dark cold of the polar twilight. His eyes fell upon his
gun, and he took it down from the wall and looked it over. He sat
down on the edge of his bed and held the barrel towards his face,
letting his forehead rest upon it, and laid his finger on the
trigger. He was perfectly calm, there was neither passion nor
despair in his face, but the thoughtful look of a man who is
considering. Presently he laid down the gun, and reaching into the
cupboard, drew out a pint bottle of raw white alcohol. Lifting it
to his lips, he drank greedily. He washed his face in the tin
basin and combed his rough hair and shaggy blond beard. Then he
stood in uncertainty before the suit of dark clothes that hung on
the wall. For the fiftieth time he took them in his hands and
tried to summon courage to put them on. He took the paper collar
that was pinned to the sleeve of the coat and cautiously slipped it
under his rough beard, looking with timid expectancy into the
cracked, splashed glass that hung over the bench. With a short
laugh he threw it down on the bed, and pulling on his old
black hat, he went out, striking off across the level.

It was a physical necessity for him to get away from his cabin
once in a while. He had been there for ten years, digging and
plowing and sowing, and reaping what little the hail and the hot
winds and the frosts left him to reap. Insanity and suicide are
very common things on the Divide. They come on like an epidemic in
the hot wind season. Those scorching dusty winds that blow up over
the bluffs from Kansas seem to dry up the blood in men's veins as
they do the sap in the corn leaves. Whenever the yellow scorch
creeps down over the tender inside leaves about the ear, then the
coroners prepare for active duty; for the oil of the country is
burned out and it does not take long for the flame to eat up the
wick. It causes no great sensation there when a Dane is found
swinging to his own windmill tower, and most of the Poles after
they have become too careless and discouraged to shave themselves
keep their razors to cut their throats with.

David
I didn't stumble mistakenly into the fiction group did I?

BB


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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 04:06 AM



http://seo-dave.blogspot.com/
I improved it.

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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 04:07 AM



Sam wrote:
Quote:
http://seo-dave.blogspot.com/
I improved it.
I know there isn't a lot of content on it but think of it as a haiku
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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 10:36 AM



On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 05:45:38 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:26:54 GMT, SEO Dave
seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-opti...es (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:09:58 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
wrote:

I'm also the only person on this NG posting their failures at SEO in
great detail so others can learn from my mistakes. I adapt as I
discover new information.

Maybe you're the only regular on this group actually still making
mistakes.

Don't think so Bill, take a look at your own sites for good examples
:-)

There's a ton wrong with all my old sites because they are all old and
need updating. Much like myself (sigh). There's also precisely no
sites I've ever optimised that I'm happy to lay claim to because I've
never been allowed to do what I wanted on them.
I've never seen a perfectly optimised page, (that includes my own) and
so all pages/sites can be improved upon. Lots of sites I've seen from
posts here are far from optimally optimised. For example too many make
the fundamental mistake of using home as the anchor text of home
links.

Quote:
Just an approximation
of it. Like, optimise this but don't change the look. Or the feel. Or
the code. Doh!
I really enjoy the challenge of optimising a site without changing the
overall feel/look.

Quote:
And even so I'm rushed off my feet so I dunno where you
get the time to do all this testing you do, or to argue with Sam.
I work over 12 hrs a day (I guess I average 16hrs, but don't keep
track) almost every day (only days I don't work is through illness).
The only benefit of being physically disabled (and a lot of adaption
to my work space) is I can work, work, work and did I mention work
without getting too tired.

Did I mention I have problems sleeping as well, went to sleep at 5am,
woke at 9.30am and was back to work for 10am (will likely do the same
today).

So basically I work at least twice as long as the average person so
can afford to take the odd break (need to take the odd break!!).

Quote:
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Stacey
 
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Default Re: New Serps contest - 08-09-2004 , 11:15 AM




"SEO Dave" <seo-daveSP (AT) AMsearch-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:6iseh0lnokusalb85k6rt77b93g91krp4e (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 05:45:38 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:


<snip>

Quote:
I've never seen a perfectly optimised page, (that includes my own) and
so all pages/sites can be improved upon. Lots of sites I've seen from
posts here are far from optimally optimised. For example too many make
the fundamental mistake of using home as the anchor text of home
links.
I use home on some of the anchor text but not all. It is hard when visitors
know and are use to home. That is why I like graphic link buttons. That way
visitors can see home, but the alt text will have keywords.

<snip>

Quote:
And even so I'm rushed off my feet so I dunno where you
get the time to do all this testing you do, or to argue with Sam.
Bill, I feel the same way. I can barely keep up with one site. But, of
course I am busy making the items. Photoing and listing the products is what
takes up a lot of time!


Quote:
I work over 12 hrs a day (I guess I average 16hrs, but don't keep
track) almost every day (only days I don't work is through illness).
The only benefit of being physically disabled (and a lot of adaption
to my work space) is I can work, work, work and did I mention work
without getting too tired.

Did I mention I have problems sleeping as well, went to sleep at 5am,
woke at 9.30am and was back to work for 10am (will likely do the same
today).
I am the same way. Sometimes I am up all night. But on occassions I do sleep
in.;-)

Quote:
So basically I work at least twice as long as the average person so
can afford to take the odd break (need to take the odd break!!).
There never is enough time in a day to do anything it seems! :-) I just got
back from vacation, so I did get a break. My mom told me I could not do any
work while I was visiting with my family. I now feel terribly behind on
orders and such. And Chirstmas is around the corner.........probably won't
get to much made for it. :-)

Quote:
BB

David
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