Re: Lowering KW density on 3 word phrases

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:30:33 -0700, catherine yronwode
<claypool (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote:

"Jill L." wrote:

Lets say again I had over-optimized my site for the phrase "child
day care" & "child day care seattle", too.

Then let's say I landed the following Gu-Gull Rankings with it:

"child babysit company" - #1
"child babysit company seattle" - #1
"kids care seattle" - #2
"kiddie daycare seattle" - #3
"seattle care day" - #5
"child day seattle" - #11
"child care seattle - #18
"child day care seattle" - #32
"child day care" - #342


Notice that my G rank gets pushed lower and lower, the closer
those search terms get to my 'optimized' phrase. In other
words, the trend that I see in my SERPS is inverse to what Im
shooting for. Weird.The only thing I can think of, is that Im
tripping an OOP filter with my keyword density.

Again, i cannot respond because you show no CONTENT samples.
What you mean by "optimized" and "over-optimized" is just a big unknown.

Let's talk about what IS known.

I rank #1 at google for the term < love spells > -- try it, click on the
link and tell me if the page is "over-optimized" by your mysterious and
unknown standards.

If you currently google for "geriatric consultation agency", my
".org" site should be listed first.

Actually, what happens is if you do Google for

"geriatric consultation agency"

then your mention in Google Groups, this thread, comes up.

If you Google for

geriatric consultation agency

then up comes the creative alliance site which I suppose might be you
as I couldn't open it.

BB


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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:39:47 -0700, catherine yronwode
<claypool (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:

"Jill L." wrote:

If you currently google for "geriatric consultation agency",
my ".org" site should be listed first.

Actually, what happens is if you do Google for

"geriatric consultation agency"

then your mention in Google Groups, this thread, comes up.

If you Google for

geriatric consultation agency

then up comes the creative alliance site which I suppose might be
you as I couldn't open it.

BB

Bill, she said that only .79% of folks couldn;t open her site, due to
having older browsers -- and here are TWO of us in one newsgroup for
whom it won't open, both of us search-engine mavens.

I don't believe I'm a maven, Cat, them's girlies. Or even a maeven, as
them's, um, Celtic girlies.

I have a feeling
that the figure of .79% is wrong.

Last year i was told that my browser fell into the "15% which new SEO
pros were ignoring." I thought that was a more accurate number -- and
also that the attitude expressed was a silly waste of the client's
money, as any store that turns away 15% of potential customers based on
the make or model of their car is not going to do as well as the
all-inclusive store.

Depends on what the site's about. If it's anything up to the minute
and boffo and gee whizz, then potential buyers likely won't be
visiting using Mosaic.

I know also that Jill's service -- elder care -- is often sought for by
elders themselves, or by their late-middle-aged children -- in other
words, folks with older computers. It is rarely searched for by the
elders' grandchildren with souped up new machines.

I'm using IE6 on 98SE so I'm not modern.

Case in point: my mother died in October at age 90. Her last computer
was an IMac G4 running system 9 and Netscape 4.x. If she had died at age
88, her last cmputer would have been a Macintosh Performa running system
8.x and Netscape 4.x.

My mother was actively searching for elder care / geriatric service
management (and finding such services herself) for help with legal
issues, shopping and house cleaning services, getting rides to hospitals
for check-ups, daily meal delivery and social support when she broke her
hip, et cetera -- right up until her final year of life when she began
to require full-time in-house care.

She and her entire network of elderly, educated Jewish retired women all
use computers -- most of them gifts from their aging baby boomer
children -- and most of them use Macs as their kids are in the arts and
grahics industries.

These older women are not interested in upgrading to newer browsers or
newer operating systems. They come from the Depression era mentality of
"use it until it wears out" -- and they want to save money for their
kids nd grandkids, not waste it buying shiny new toys for themselves. if
a site won't open for their older browser, they get frustated and move
on to a lower tech site. They love google and the Guardian newspaper
online (a world-class news site with low graphics usage that is low tech
browser compatible), and they also actively use Yahoo Groups for their
hobby groups (because it is compatible with Netscape 4.x).

Now, here comes Jill with a site that's perfect for these elder to find
the services they need -- or for their kids to do so and show the to mom
while at her house, on her computer -- and the site won't open because
mom has an older browser.

Bad idea.

If any demographic group on Earth needs sites that are older-tech
friendly, it is geriatric services clients.

Duh.

Cordially,

cat (not quite geriatric myself, yet) yronwode

Nearer than me though, tee-hee!

BB
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:02:36 GMT, Jill L.
<TotallyMunged (AT) TooManyUsenetEmailHarvesters (DOT) com> wrote:

...and to think I just wanted to focus on KW density, silly me.
Live and learn.

I think we all knew you were wrong about that.

BB
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