Re: How??

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:33:46 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:
Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer wrote:

Borek wrote:

The terminology is a bit confused.

Also regards terminology, why do SEOs use the word 'spam'? In general
useage spam = unsolicited email, from the Monty python sketch where spam
is served with every meal (ie. you always get junk-mail with the mail
you want).

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of 'spam'
or it's etymology.


Tradition.

any idea why that tradition started?

Nah.

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Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer wrote:
Borek wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:26:34 +0200, JoshNYC128 <JoshNYC128 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

what's a IBL if you don't mind shedding some light on the noob



Hmmm... BL is Back Links, I always felt that I stands for Incoming,
but then Incoming Back Link sounds like tautology.


The terminology is a bit confused.

Also regards terminology, why do SEOs use the word 'spam'? In general
useage spam = unsolicited email, from the Monty python sketch where spam
is served with every meal (ie. you always get junk-mail with the mail
you want).

Not really, look up spam. Spam is in short repetitive stuff that annoys.

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Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

any idea why that tradition started?

What I read some time ago, on IRC. Someone (IIRC) was sending the same
message over and over again, and it was compared to "spam, spam, spam" in
the famous Monty Python sketch. The real origins are probably hard to track
back though.

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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of 'spam'
or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

IMO keyword stuffing could fall under spamming, whilst redirecting and
cloaking wouldn't.

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David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of 'spam'
or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

member spamming :-D.

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Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:
Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:


any idea why that tradition started?


What I read some time ago, on IRC. Someone (IIRC) was sending the
same message over and over again, and it was compared to "spam, spam,
spam" in the famous Monty Python sketch. The real origins are
probably hard to track back though.

what I don't get is the SEO usage of the word spam,

having 10,000 similar pages in Google?
Repeating the same keyword(s) all over the page?

which dosen't seem
to be related to the 'repetitive message sending' concept, or
'unsolicited commercial message' concept at all.

You can also regard spam as a misleading message trying to get your
attention (and money).

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On 26 Oct 2005 03:22:39 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of 'spam'
or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

member spamming :-D.

What's member spamming?

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"David" <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On 26 Oct 2005 03:22:39 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no> wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of 'spam'
or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

member spamming :-D.

What's member spamming?

Do you really want to go there? :-)

Stacey

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On 26 Oct 2005 03:22:39 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no
wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to me
these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage of
'spam' or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

member spamming :-D.

What's member spamming?

Some sites want you to register for free, and they already have those "Sign
up for our daily free newsletter", "Sign up to get email from our
sponsors", etc ticked for you :-(

:-D

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"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

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On 26 Oct 2005 03:22:39 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:29:52 +0100, Davémon <nospam (AT) nowhere (DOT) no
wrote:

Spamming to SEOs seems to mean anything that might be considered
'black-hat' (Keyword stuffing, redirects, cloaking etc.) , but to
me these seem to have no logical connection with the common usage
of 'spam' or it's etymology.

I consider spamming as doing something excessively.

member spamming :-D.

What's member spamming?

Do you really want to go there? :-)

It's bad for your members, so I wouldn't recommend it.

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