Re: Google sitemaps ... food for thought?

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 01:30:54 +0100, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 00:10:44 +0100, "Stacey"
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I prefer designs that fill the screen and adjusts
accordingly.

Yes, but the drawback with a css fluid design is that is can easily
break when the screen size is reduced. (which this one also does)

Maybe for you but not for me. Looks fine.

Well, I am on 1024 768 and if I open "favorites" so it reduces the
size of the page, then look at the right panel (Web Developer Help
section) you will see the problem.

I am on a 1280 by 1024. I have actually went and made it as skinny as
possible until of course the info moves to the bottom. That is what it is
suppose to do if it is fluid with that much info. I never have my screen
that small of a width. But to me it isn't a problem even with the small
width.

BTW poor Justin all I did was make a compliment. I apologize to you Justin.
I really liked your design.

Stacey
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 02:54:26 +0100, "Stacey"
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 01:30:54 +0100, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 00:10:44 +0100, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

I prefer designs that fill the screen and adjusts
accordingly.

Yes, but the drawback with a css fluid design is that is can easily
break when the screen size is reduced. (which this one also does)

Maybe for you but not for me. Looks fine.

Well, I am on 1024 768 and if I open "favorites" so it reduces the
size of the page, then look at the right panel (Web Developer Help
section) you will see the problem.

I am on a 1280 by 1024. I have actually went and made it as skinny as
possible until of course the info moves to the bottom. That is what it is
suppose to do if it is fluid with that much info. I never have my screen
that small of a width. But to me it isn't a problem even with the small
width.

Different strokes

BTW poor Justin

Porr Justin ? I am poorer than he is LOL

all I did was make a compliment.

So did I - and gave him some advise too about the adsense. Or would
you prefer that I said nowt and then he gets banned ?

I apologize to you Justin.

I see no need why you need to. We both gave him compliments.

I really liked your design.

I said that I liked it too.

Stacey

pb

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"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 02:54:26 +0100, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

<snip>

I am on a 1280 by 1024. I have actually went and made it as skinny as
possible until of course the info moves to the bottom. That is what it is
suppose to do if it is fluid with that much info. I never have my screen
that small of a width. But to me it isn't a problem even with the small
width.

Different strokes

Yep.

BTW poor Justin

Porr Justin ? I am poorer than he is LOL

I meant I feel bad.

all I did was make a compliment.

So did I - and gave him some advise too about the adsense. Or would
you prefer that I said nowt and then he gets banned ?

He won't get banned from the index, and it is slightly maybe wrong for
Adsense...but it isn't like he has flashing arrows pointing it out. I mean
even I missed it.

I apologize to you Justin.

I see no need why you need to. We both gave him compliments.

Didn't mean you didn't give him a compliment.:-)

I really liked your design.

I said that I liked it too.

Didn't say you didn't like it.:-) I just didn't see all of what you and
Borek seen with the breaking up and stuff. It looks fine to me. I made a
compliment and then get asked like if I really liked it? Quote."Which
browser have you used? IE? And you still like his design? ".

Stacey
--
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Valentine Gifts-
http://allgiftshop.net/occasion-gift...-day-gifts.htm
Flowers- http://allgiftshop.net/occasion-gift...ts-flowers.htm

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 03:40:54 +0100, "Stacey"
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 02:54:26 +0100, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

snip

I am on a 1280 by 1024. I have actually went and made it as skinny as
possible until of course the info moves to the bottom. That is what it is
suppose to do if it is fluid with that much info. I never have my screen
that small of a width. But to me it isn't a problem even with the small
width.

Different strokes

Yep.


BTW poor Justin

Porr Justin ? I am poorer than he is LOL

I meant I feel bad.

I'm bad ..... feel me <g>

all I did was make a compliment.

So did I - and gave him some advise too about the adsense. Or would
you prefer that I said nowt and then he gets banned ?

He won't get banned from the index, and it is slightly maybe wrong for
Adsense...but it isn't like he has flashing arrows pointing it out. I mean
even I missed it.

I didn't say banned for the index, I was on about the text directly
above the adsense. I wouldn't want him to get a (possible) ban for his
innocence.

I apologize to you Justin.

I see no need why you need to. We both gave him compliments.

Didn't mean you didn't give him a compliment.:-)

I really liked your design.

I said that I liked it too.

Didn't say you didn't like it.:-) I just didn't see all of what you and
Borek seen with the breaking up and stuff.

I couldn't see what Borek saw. May be he has been licking too many
poisonous toads <g>

Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes helps. Or just happen to spot
something.

I am surprised you couldn't see the difference in the header tags
(hint: look at the borders on the right when using header tags)
(bigger hint: the background blends with the right hand panel in IE.)

It looks fine to me. I made a compliment and then get asked like if I really liked it? Quote."Which
browser have you used? IE? And you still like his design? ".

Stacey

plh
Paul


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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:33:15 +0100, Stacey
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

Have you noticed that background behaves differently? Try to scroll
the page down in both browsers.

LOL! No, I haven't and still it doesn't for me. I don't see it. Both
browsers look fine and fine during resize. I honestly do not see what you
see.

Which version of the IE do you use?

There is a background picture (some street with bottom part of somebody
walking). If you scroll the screen down in IE, what happens to the picture
under the text?

At least in IE 6.0 background picture splits - parts outside of the text
boxes remains in its position (as it is expected to do), but part under
the text boxes scrolls together with text.

Best,
Borek
--
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http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-ca...=pH-definition

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:37:15 +0100, Stacey
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

I prefer designs that fill the screen and adjusts
accordingly.

Yes, but the drawback with a css fluid design is that is can easily
break when the screen size is reduced. (which this one also does)

If done correctly it should not. If done to display in IE, it will
break.

Well, I have to disagree. I have been making up some new sites that are
fluid in both IE and FF. They are also look so similar you can't tell the
difference between the two.

OK, I wasn't clear enough. My problems started once I have tried to
define minimum width of the page so it is not a thing that happens
always. But I have decided to use some kind of layout and after several
hours was ready to bite. Then Junior told me I better relax and think
about other layouts, as I am wasting my time looking for the solution
that doesn't exist.

As for IE problems see for example:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/...ingboxbug.html
http://www.positioniseverything.net/ie-primer.html

There is no Junior at home atm, he knows much more on the subject
and will be probably able to give much better references.

Best,
Borek
--
http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-ca...right=pH-scale
http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-ca...=pH-definition

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:40:54 +0100, Stacey
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

Didn't say you didn't like it.:-) I just didn't see all of what you and
Borek seen with the breaking up and stuff. It looks fine to me. I made a
compliment and then get asked like if I really liked it? Quote."Which
browser have you used? IE? And you still like his design? ".

That was me. The trick Justin uses is known from the Eric Meyer's page:

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edg...iral/demo.html

Scroll down the page and just below middle you will find information
I was referring to (in "I'm not seeing any seamless compositing!" section).
To say the truth I even didn't bother to check how it displays in IE.

Did I mention I like Justin's page too? If not - I do. Junior likes it
too, as I have shown the page to him. Just we know it will have problems.

Best,
Borek
--
http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-ca...right=pH-scale
http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-ca...=pH-definition

"Paul" <webmaster (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote

<snip>

Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes helps. Or just happen to spot
something.

I am surprised you couldn't see the difference in the header tags
(hint: look at the borders on the right when using header tags)
(bigger hint: the background blends with the right hand panel in IE.)

I saw that and like I said not much difference. That isn't a problem for me.
It isn't bad to where I would go and change something. I don't see the
background image messing up.

Stacey
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Valentine Gifts-
http://allgiftshop.net/occasion-gift...-day-gifts.htm
Flowers- http://allgiftshop.net/occasion-gift...ts-flowers.htm

"Borek" <m.borkowski (AT) delete (DOT) chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:40:54 +0100, Stacey
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

Didn't say you didn't like it.:-) I just didn't see all of what you and
Borek seen with the breaking up and stuff. It looks fine to me. I made a
compliment and then get asked like if I really liked it? Quote."Which
browser have you used? IE? And you still like his design? ".

That was me. The trick Justin uses is known from the Eric Meyer's page:

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edg...iral/demo.html

Yes, I know it was you and yes I still like the page! I see that background
how it is different, but as said before it looks fine to me. The image is
different on IE that FF but still looks fine.

Scroll down the page and just below middle you will find information
I was referring to (in "I'm not seeing any seamless compositing!"
section).
To say the truth I even didn't bother to check how it displays in IE.

Did I mention I like Justin's page too? If not - I do. Junior likes it
too, as I have shown the page to him. Just we know it will have problems.

No you didn't. Minor problems to say the least, it isn't something I would
be worried about changing.

While we are on the subject on web designs like I had said I like fluid
designs better. Especially since I have a larger screen! Even my mom has
asked how come websites have this little bit off to the side or center. It
always looks off and a lot of wasted space. My husband, daughter, son, etc
also like fluidity. But you know hey that is me and how some people feel.
You could actually fix yours to where you wouldn't have to scroll down to
read the page on the home page. For the most part I view sites it the full
view. Unless I run a side by side when viewing SERPs. From what I noticed
with my family we all go to full screen except when needing to view several
things(on rare occasions (not including Mom and Aunts, but my husband and I,
son, etc) ).

What IE am I using, hmmm what are they up to 6? That is what I have. All new
system just got it in Oct. with all new products and of course updates. I
have loads of space and memory, and highest/fastest DSL Germany had. I am
running 1.0.7 FF. I have tried to get Opera but the stupid thing keeps
wanting to give me the German version. So, I decided to screw it and not
download it.

Stacey

Borek wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:33:15 +0100, Stacey
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

Have you noticed that background behaves differently? Try to scroll
the page down in both browsers.


LOL! No, I haven't and still it doesn't for me. I don't see it. Both
browsers look fine and fine during resize. I honestly do not see what you
see.


Which version of the IE do you use?

There is a background picture (some street with bottom part of somebody
walking). If you scroll the screen down in IE, what happens to the picture
under the text?

At least in IE 6.0 background picture splits - parts outside of the text
boxes remains in its position (as it is expected to do), but part under
the text boxes scrolls together with text.

Just for the record, FF does it right...

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http://koivi.com