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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-02-2005 , 10:09 PM






"Steve Horrillo" <usenet (AT) stephenhorrillo (DOT) com> wrote:

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I read the links you referred me to. Thank you. But in practice multi
posting gets the job done.
So you are an ignorant idiot who prefers to waste other people's time?

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Sure it makes it easier for those who hang
out in a particular group, but the argument for not multi posting
sounds like rationalization to me. For someone who needs an answer
quick, multi-posting is the way.
So you consider yourself the most important person on Usenet? If your
message have to be in a few groups: cross post *and* set a follow up to.

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Like I said. This is an old taboo that continues in a day in age where
there's alternatives.
Yes, it's called a kill file, you just have probably added yourself to
many.

[ snip yada yada ]

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But like I said I'm always open changing my mind.
If you don't you will notice that many people have a very effective way
to handle ignorant people like you, they ploink you.

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But so far if I back
up and try to see this from a neutral point of view, I still can't see
the logic behind wasting hours reading though posts to make sure I'm
asking the right group.
So instead you prefer to waste the time of other people, clueless n00b.

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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 12:39 AM






"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

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"Steve Horrillo" <usenet (AT) stephenhorrillo (DOT) com> wrote:
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Sure it makes it easier for those who hang
out in a particular group, but the argument for not multi posting
sounds like rationalization to me. For someone who needs an answer
quick, multi-posting is the way.

So you consider yourself the most important person on Usenet? If your
message have to be in a few groups: cross post *and* set a follow up to.
I am going to have to agree on John with this one and that is a rarity:-). I
have subscribed to other NG's but don't read all of them everyday, but that
is beside the point.

Point is, cross posting isn't so much of a huge taboo(unless you are cross
posting for the heck of it or to do it as spamming), it is multi posting.
Like Els pointed out, if the posting was cross posted correctly, then one
would know if you received a good answer or not and not have to be giving
the same answer. It works the same way as multi posting just that everyone
would be able to see the answers given to the other groups and can either
comment or give more or better of an answer.

Stacey




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Els
 
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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 08:08 AM



Steve Horrillo wrote:

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On 2-Jul-2005, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Like I said. This is an old taboo that continues in a day in age where
there's alternatives.

Yes, it's called a kill file, you just have probably added yourself to
many.

That's fine with me. Kill filing someone who is asking for answers shows you
true intentions for being here. I can see doing that for obvious trolls, but
to do it to someone who is genuinely asking a question make you an Internet
snob. There's always going to be people who "snub" you if don't conform to
their whims. Those sort of people will eventually lead you astray anyway.
So be my guest. Snub me. Snob.
You question may have been genuine, you're attitude wrt to multiple
requests not to multipost stinks. You're the snob here, but you're one
of those that don't even realize it. I feel sorry for you.
OTOH - you could just be a really good troll. In which case you've
given genuine trolls a bad name.

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John Bokma
 
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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 12:05 PM



"Steve Horrillo" <usenet (AT) stephenhorrillo (DOT) com> wrote:

[ snip multiposting ]

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I see your point.
I doubt it.

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If it weren't for Goggle I would have to agree my
methods are selfish.
They still are.

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Yet like I said, with cross posting you have to
be very careful which groups you mix.
Of course: if you want a *free* answer composed by people in *their* spare
time, you have to do some homework: e.g. do your own research, and then
pick the *most* appropriate newsgroup. In some *rare* cases you can decide
to add 1 or even 2 more groups but *set* a follow up to.

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Either way draws complaints from
the complainers. What song was it that said, "you can't please
everyone, so you got to please yourself?"
You will discover very fast that if you keep pleasing yourself, others keep
ploinking you at an even faster rate. Moreover, you will notice that your
lazy questions will result in long, long threads in which *you* make a fool
of yourself and people keep telling you how a clueless selfish n00b you
are.

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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 12:07 PM



"Steve Horrillo" <usenet (AT) stephenhorrillo (DOT) com> wrote:

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On 2-Jul-2005, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Like I said. This is an old taboo that continues in a day in age
where there's alternatives.

Yes, it's called a kill file, you just have probably added yourself
to many.

That's fine with me. Kill filing someone who is asking for answers
shows you true intentions for being here.
And you are kill filed because you are a lazy n00b just in for the free
answers. Who do you think is right? You, as a lazy n00b, or people
willing to help others, every day again, but just asking to be careful
with *their* time?

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I can see doing that for
obvious trolls,
If you try to explain that multiposting is the way to go, you are
considered an ignorant troll by many.

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but to do it to someone who is genuinely asking a
question make you an Internet snob.
You are the snob here.

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There's always going to be people
who "snub" you if don't conform to their whims. Those sort of people
will eventually lead you astray anyway. So be my guest. Snub me. Snob.
I am sure I heard just several more *ploinks*

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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 12:58 PM



"Steve Horrillo" <usenet (AT) stephenhorrillo (DOT) com> wrote

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On 3-Jul-2005, "Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

Point is, cross posting isn't so much of a huge taboo(unless you are
cross

posting for the heck of it or to do it as spamming), it is multi posting.
Like Els pointed out, if the posting was cross posted correctly, then one
would know if you received a good answer or not and not have to be giving
the same answer. It works the same way as multi posting just that
everyone

would be able to see the answers given to the other groups and can either
comment or give more or better of an answer.

I see your point. If it weren't for Goggle I would have to agree my
methods
are selfish.
What does Google have to do with it?

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Yet like I said, with cross posting you have to be very careful
which groups you mix. Either way draws complaints from the complainers.
True and if you had researched and lurked for a while you would have found
out that at alt.html.critque they do not use WYSIWYG editors and basically
put FP down, so that is one group to stay away from with that posting
because they hand code. Also, at alt.www.webmasters it is about the same
way, but not as much.

In this NG we talk about optimization, there are some FP users who can help
you but not as many as the FP group or the FAQ and technical areas of the
Microsoft site.

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What
song was it that said, "you can't please everyone, so you got to please
yourself?"
Yep, right about that. So, now I know to keep knowledge to myself and not
try to go out of my way and help.

Stacey




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GB Blanchard
 
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Default Re: Fixing Dirt Filthy Front Page Code - 07-03-2005 , 02:23 PM



Steve Horrillo wrote:

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So be my guest. Snub me. Snob.
I usually ignore messages from trolls and bigoted-idiots, but you, Steve,
have taken all the awards for advanced stupidity, ignorance and arrogance in
this newgroup. You've now used the last byte on my computer as well. You should
be very pleased for excelling at something! Congratulations!

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