Re: blogger.com weblogs disappear from Google?

Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer wrote:

My new weblog has disappeared completely from Google's index overnight. It
has not moved down, but disappeared.

I use Google's own blogger.com tool but host the files myself at
http://lakjer.dk/mikkel/blog/

My weblog was almost immediately indexed by Google and the blogger tool
makes an individual file for each post as weel as an index file with
recent posts together and an archive file.

I looked for other blogger.com blogs in Google and they have disappeared
completely too. So maybe it is not something I did wrong?

It cannot be that Google's duplicate prohibition means that they penalise
their own blog format because of the file structure, can it? On
blogger.com they explain that individual files as well as the index file
is the best way to make the blog search engine friendly.

My blog is still visible in Yahoo and MSN.

What should I do? Any chance this is only a temporary problem?

Why should Google penalise their own blog users?

Mikkel

First of all, how old is your blog? How well-ranked is it? You said it was
new and grace is given to new Web sites.

Secondly, if it only disappeared last night, you may be too quick to
speculate and be tempted to paranoia. I can assure you that Google will not
cull out and omit blogs, some of which have better content than
hierarchical sites.

What files do you host on your personal site? Graphics? A mirror? Importing
text content from you site? Using Blogger for SEO?

How many other blogs have you checked to reach the conclusion found in the
subject line?

Overall, it sounds to me like a temporary problem. Give it a few days, go
out, have a nice time and if time does not do the trick, then start looking
ahead at a solution.

Roy

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Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer wrote:

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:db0p0m$4nc$1 (AT) godfrey (DOT) mcc.ac.uk...

First of all, how old is your blog? How well-ranked is it? You said it
was new and grace is given to new Web sites.

It is only from last Friday July 8th. It was already very well ranked for
many searches.

July 8th?!?! Come on... who are we kidding? *smile* Up for 2-3 days and then
gone for half a day? An implication of millions of blogs penalised as a
consequence?

Secondly, if it only disappeared last night, you may be too quick to
speculate and be tempted to paranoia. I can assure you that Google will
not
cull out and omit blogs, some of which have better content than
hierarchical sites.

I hoped not :-)

What files do you host on your personal site? Graphics? A mirror?
Importing
text content from you site? Using Blogger for SEO?

I do absolutely no dubious stuff. The rest of my personal site still ranks
fine, only the blog-subdirectory has disappeared from Google.

If only a sub-directory was excluded, you have no reason to worry.

However, having read your thoughts about the possibility that search
engines might penalise you because of Microsoft critical content on your
pages, I am thinking of removing my links to Google Watch :-)

I am glad to have found out that you read me drivel. Always remember that
search engines are commercial companies, not public services like the
Yellow Pages. Even Yellow Pages promote businesses for money, e.g. by
making colourful big ads. Yahoo will charge you a handful to be included in
a Goddamn directory.

How many other blogs have you checked to reach the conclusion found in
the subject line?

Just a handful, that's why I put the question mark in the subject line :-)

I suspected it was perhaps a little hasty, yet it was worth asking. I have
been worried myself for quite some time that search engines will one day
(if not already) choose to systemetically degrade ranks of blogs based on
URL name (e.g. "/blog"), generator meta tags and so forth.

Overall, it sounds to me like a temporary problem. Give it a few days, go
out, have a nice time and if time does not do the trick, then start
looking
ahead at a solution.

All right, I will try and stay calm :-) I really hope this is a temporary
problem. Don't like these schocks though.

Mikkel

Get used to these shocks. I have have had many big shocks when my site was
attacked, when Google missed me in its indexing cycle (DNS migration at
that exact same time) and when my site got suspended for being exposed to
XML-RPC attacks. We live and learn.

Regards,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz
http://Schestowitz.com

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:21:17 -0600, "Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer"
<mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote:

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:db0p0m$4nc$1 (AT) godfrey (DOT) mcc.ac.uk...

First of all, how old is your blog? How well-ranked is it? You said it was
new and grace is given to new Web sites.

It is only from last Friday July 8th. It was already very well ranked for
many searches.

Secondly, if it only disappeared last night, you may be too quick to
speculate and be tempted to paranoia. I can assure you that Google will
not
cull out and omit blogs, some of which have better content than
hierarchical sites.

I hoped not :-)

What files do you host on your personal site? Graphics? A mirror?
Importing
text content from you site? Using Blogger for SEO?

I do absolutely no dubious stuff. The rest of my personal site still ranks
fine, only the blog-subdirectory has disappeared from Google.

However, having read your thoughts about the possibility that search engines
might penalise you because of Microsoft critical content on your pages, I am
thinking of removing my links to Google Watch :-)

How many other blogs have you checked to reach the conclusion found in the
subject line?

Just a handful, that's why I put the question mark in the subject line :-)

Overall, it sounds to me like a temporary problem. Give it a few days, go
out, have a nice time and if time does not do the trick, then start
looking
ahead at a solution.

All right, I will try and stay calm :-) I really hope this is a temporary
problem. Don't like these schocks though.

Mikkel

They have and they continue to occur with a dismaying inevitability.
Back when you had the regular monthly Googledance every month there
were folk in here comlaining their site had vanished. Most often it
would reappear a month or a few weeks later not much different in rank
from when it disappeared.
These days the same complaints are made but they come sporadically
which can arguably be put down to Google now effecting a rolling
re-indexing.

BB
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:52:17 -0600, "Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer"
<mikkel (AT) fabel (DOT) dk> wrote:

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:db0rqi$5b0$1 (AT) godfrey (DOT) mcc.ac.uk...
Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer wrote:

July 8th?!?! Come on... who are we kidding? *smile* Up for 2-3 days and
then
gone for half a day? An implication of millions of blogs penalised as a
consequence?

It just seems strange as it is the first time I have experienced that new
pages are first indexed, then disappear from the index.

It isn't the first time we've experienced it.

I didn't say all of those blogs, I just noticed that a few other and _older_
blogs than mine, that were indexed before, have also disappeared. I have
looked some more, and many blogger.com blogs are still indexed, while many
others, picked by random, are not indexed by Google - and thus no Google
cache can be displayed for those pages.

If only a sub-directory was excluded, you have no reason to worry.

Isn't it strange though?

Google is strange. People who expect an ordered universe really won't
ever be happy with the internet. We're all pioneers here, some relish
it, some don't.

Get used to these shocks. I have have had many big shocks when my site was
attacked, when Google missed me in its indexing cycle (DNS migration at
that exact same time) and when my site got suspended for being exposed to
XML-RPC attacks. We live and learn.

Scary.

Mikkel

Scary goes with the badge. Someone should hag a big sign over the door
to the internet; "Whatever you used to know, forget it - it's not like
that in here...".

BB
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seo that watches the river flow...
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:24:33 +0200, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Scary goes with the badge. Someone should hag a big sign over the door
to the internet; "Whatever you used to know, forget it - it's not like
that in here...".

Or perhaps "Lasciate ogni Speranza Voi ch'entrate"

Best,
Borek
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:45:26 +0200, Borek
<borek (AT) parts (DOT) bpp.to.com.remove.pl> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:24:33 +0200, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Scary goes with the badge. Someone should hag a big sign over the door
to the internet; "Whatever you used to know, forget it - it's not like
that in here...".

Or perhaps "Lasciate ogni Speranza Voi ch'entrate"

Best,
Borek

No, I liked mine better...

BB
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www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
seo that watches the river flow...
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Mikkel Møldrup-Lakjer wrote:

Buenos días compas,

Today is a good day and I am happy again.

All of my pages are back in the Google index.

So you were right that my worries were premature.

Regards,

Mikkel

Yes. You never had to worry in the first place. You could have saved
yourself the nuisance and gone to watch a nice film in the interim.

Regards,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz
http://Schestowitz.com