Proposal: What if We Started Flagging Non-SPAM Threads (Posts)?

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

I was meaning there should be more dicussions about on topic stuff
which there isn't.

Since the stats are part of this group, discussing them is IMO on-topic.
But I also agree that it would be nice if there were more SEO related
posts. If you have suggestions to improve on that, I welcome them.

[ long articles on SEO might be better on your own site ;-) ]

LOL! Yeah, I do both. I am not saying long posting but discussions on
things about SEO, marketing anything.

Yup, like I said, I am currently experimenting with description for Yahoo.
Also my overal number of visitors is going up again by roughly 1000/day.
Did anyone else see quite a drop the past months?


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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

I was meaning there should be more dicussions about on topic stuff
which there isn't.

Since the stats are part of this group, discussing them is IMO on-topic.
But I also agree that it would be nice if there were more SEO related
posts. If you have suggestions to improve on that, I welcome them.

Oh, I didn't mean discussing about stats. I mean all in general. You know
the whole group discussing.

[ long articles on SEO might be better on your own site ;-) ]
LOL! Yeah, I do both. I am not saying long posting but discussions on
things about SEO, marketing anything.

Yup, like I said, I am currently experimenting with description for Yahoo.
Also my overal number of visitors is going up again by roughly 1000/day.
Did anyone else see quite a drop the past months?

From Yahoo? Or overall?

Stacey
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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message

[..]

Yup, like I said, I am currently experimenting with description for
Yahoo. Also my overal number of visitors is going up again by roughly
1000/day. Did anyone else see quite a drop the past months?

From Yahoo? Or overall?

Overall (both the drop, and going up again). Might be school related :-)
In the past I mostly looked at the Google stats, and only very little.

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John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

On 1 Feb 2008 00:23:13 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

thing of how this group is. Not doing anything and letting it go
without trying to at least start decent discussions will keep it so.

Spam doesn't go away if we suddenly all start to post on-topic and
informative posts. Spam goes away by reporting it. I've given up, more or
less on that. The plan for spam seems still to be to filter it out,
despite years and years of proof that filtering *does not work*

Anyway, most people here into SEO, if they had a long post on SEO, they
probably would put it on their site. I would (but damn, posting silly
posts on Usenet is so much less effort).

Ya don't say :-)

BB
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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message

[..]

Yup, like I said, I am currently experimenting with description for
Yahoo. Also my overal number of visitors is going up again by roughly
1000/day. Did anyone else see quite a drop the past months?

From Yahoo? Or overall?

Overall (both the drop, and going up again). Might be school related :-)
In the past I mostly looked at the Google stats, and only very little.

I know a lot of people don't like it,
but try looking at your traffic on Alexa
(over 3 years) then overlay it with mine.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk
it's amazingly similar.

My drop is predominatly because I stopped
doing a couple of projects on my site which
were bringing in lots of traffic, but little income.

I now have half the traffic but twice the income )
maybe you shouldn't worry to much about
traffic, but look more at the quality of the traffic.

--
T.J.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote :

Spam goes away by reporting it. I've given up, more or
less on that. The plan for spam seems still to be to filter it out,
despite years and years of proof that filtering *does not work*

*everyone* has given up on reporting it - and the people you report it to
have largely given up, too.

Filtering is not 100%, but considering the huge volumes of spam, it really
isn't bad.
Certainly better than doing nothing!

Just consider: Google's gmail has probably the best email filters around; if
I get ONE spam per day in my inbox, I'm surprised, and very occasionally (I
assume when a new tick is developed), I get a handful per day for a week.

Often I get none at all.

Just consider: Google's Groups is the source of much usenet spam. I don't
use it at all for usenet, so I don't know if they have filters for incoming
spam ... but they sure as hell don't for outgoing.

Go figure!
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Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message

[..]

Yup, like I said, I am currently experimenting with description for
Yahoo. Also my overal number of visitors is going up again by roughly
1000/day. Did anyone else see quite a drop the past months?

From Yahoo? Or overall?

Overall (both the drop, and going up again). Might be school related :-)
In the past I mostly looked at the Google stats, and only very little.

Do you have the same amount of pages indexed during the whole time? Without
knowing the whole scheme of things it would be hard to say. Depending on
which site of course there is a flux, and there is always a slow down right
after Christmas then it picks back up around Jan 15. This might be what you
have experienced.

Stacey
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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

[ on johnbokma.com ]

I now have half the traffic but twice the income )
maybe you shouldn't worry to much about
traffic, but look more at the quality of the traffic.

That's a very good point. I think a lot about that one too, but then I
notice that thinking about those things eats up a lot of time, time I
could use to write more content :-). One (good) reason for the drop might
be that I haven't written much the past months (in December I picked it up
a bit, and that's probably why I see an increase now).

Anyway, I do want my traffic up, and then drop AdSense like a hot turd. It
did nice about a year ago, but I've the feeling the quality has dropped.
At least the income has dropped to less than 50%.

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John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"Andrew Heenan" <seo2seo (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote :
Spam goes away by reporting it. I've given up, more or
less on that. The plan for spam seems still to be to filter it out,
despite years and years of proof that filtering *does not work*

*everyone* has given up on reporting it

Not everyone, but close. Which is sad.

- and the people you report it to have largely given up, too.

I am afraid that those started first, doing nothing. I still report other
forms of spam, and they (the people who *should* do something about it)
make it extremely hard.

Filtering is not 100%, but considering the huge volumes of spam, it
really isn't bad.
Certainly better than doing nothing!

Filtering is just that: doing nothing.

Just consider: Google's Groups is the source of much usenet spam. I
don't use it at all for usenet, so I don't know if they have filters
for incoming spam ... but they sure as hell don't for outgoing.

Google does delete spam, but that's after it has been distributed and
someone complained about it. They don't care much about spam on
blogger/blogspot (their abuse reporting system is fucked, to say it
nicely, and it took me ages to contact finally someone who was able to do
something). If I didn't know better I would almost say Google profits in
some mysterious way from spam.

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John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"Jezsta Web Productions" <Please-use-our-contact-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

[ on johnbokma.com ]

Do you have the same amount of pages indexed during the whole time?

I've made some changes and added some pages. No big ones, but overall I
didn't do more or less than normal, as far as I can recall.

Without knowing the whole scheme of things it would be hard to say.
Depending on which site of course there is a flux, and there is always
a slow down right after Christmas then it picks back up around Jan 15.
This might be what you have experienced.

It started well before Christmas. I can't recall ever to have a
significant drop (as in noticable) like this before.

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John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/