prefix role???

Thanks guys,
hope this will help
Also, if from domain with www preffix google indexed good qty of pages
- where will they gone then? Just will disappear?


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__/ [beromko (AT) yahoo (DOT) com] on Monday 24 October 2005 10:35 \__

Thanks guys,
hope this will help
Also, if from domain with www preffix google indexed good qty of pages
- where will they gone then? Just will disappear?


http://www.exactsearcher.com Exact Meta Search | Major Search Engine

Under most circumstances, Google will not tell apart or separate apart
example.org from www.example.org. Yet, due to one among many possible
factors (e.g. old software on crawling boxes), they are sometimes treated as
different pages. Incoming links that are inconsistent do not help either.
You were not the first person to raise this issue and Google even included
an answer/solution in their FAQ, I believe.

You will not have lost any pages by re-directing as John suggested. If
anything, you will have gained. In fact, I have just added such
re-directions to 3 domains, even though I think 'www' is fully deprecated
already.

I might as well point out that this should have a positive impact of traffic
reports that do not omit that triple W 'umbilical cord'.

Roy

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

This was discussed before. See entire thread by following the address
below:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.speaktomecatalog.com
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.speaktomecatalog.com [R=301,L]

Yup, you even qouted 3 mistakes :-( (IIRC those were also mentioned in the
same thread).

Use the example on:
<http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/12/rewritingurlsforgoogle.html>


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beromko (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Thanks guys,
hope this will help
Also, if from domain with www preffix google indexed good qty of pages
- where will they gone then? Just will disappear?

If you follow the example I gave (on my page), all www. pages are 301
redirected to the ones without the www (which I recommend btw). You will
lose no visitors, not get kicked out of google. The www. pages should
disappear from google, and replaced with the ones without the www. I have
done this in the past with 2 domains, and no problems at all.

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__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 24 October 2005 14:37 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

This was discussed before. See entire thread by following the address
below:


RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.speaktomecatalog.com
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.speaktomecatalog.com [R=301,L]

Yup, you even qouted 3 mistakes :-( (IIRC those were also mentioned in the
same thread).

Use the example on:
http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/1...forgoogle.html

I did. It broke my Wikis and broke my password-protected pages (who knows
what else). I had to remove it for the time being and I'll investigate
within the next few days. I do want it to stay in tact, but there seems to
be a risk or trade-off involved. It caused more trouble than I had imagined.

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

I did. It broke my Wikis and broke my password-protected pages (who
knows what else).

Note that cookies contain the full path, which might give problems

I had to remove it for the time being and I'll
investigate within the next few days. I do want it to stay in tact,
but there seems to be a risk or trade-off involved. It caused more
trouble than I had imagined.

Only with cookies afaik (and maybe https doesn't like it). Also note that
if your browser remembered the password for the prefixed variant, it lost
(actually never had) it for the non-prefixed one (and vice versa).

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__/ [John Bokma] on Tuesday 25 October 2005 07:00 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

I did. It broke my Wikis and broke my password-protected pages (who
knows what else).

Note that cookies contain the full path, which might give problems

I had to remove it for the time being and I'll
investigate within the next few days. I do want it to stay in tact,
but there seems to be a risk or trade-off involved. It caused more
trouble than I had imagined.

Only with cookies afaik (and maybe https doesn't like it). Also note that
if your browser remembered the password for the prefixed variant, it lost
(actually never had) it for the non-prefixed one (and vice versa).

Thanks, John. Good suggestions, which I will keep in mind.

Cheers,

Roy

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 24 October 2005 14:37 \__

This was discussed before. See entire thread by following the address
below:



RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.speaktomecatalog.com
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.speaktomecatalog.com [R=301,L]



I did. It broke my Wikis

I had trouble with this under similar circumstances so I just stuck the
rewrite code into the top of my wiki/blog/whatever:

$request = $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'];
$server = $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'];

$prefix = strtolower(substr($server,0,4));
if ($prefix != "www.") {
# combine page rank
header("HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location: http://www.$server$request");
exit;
}

in this case I'm rewriting not www. to www, you probably want to reverse
this as John says www. serves no real purpose. This needs to be at the
top of any PHP script. YMMV.

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__/ [davidof] on Friday 28 October 2005 13:23 \__

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
__/ [John Bokma] on Monday 24 October 2005 14:37 \__

This was discussed before. See entire thread by following the address
below:



RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.speaktomecatalog.com
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.speaktomecatalog.com [R=301,L]



I did. It broke my Wikis

I had trouble with this under similar circumstances so I just stuck the
rewrite code into the top of my wiki/blog/whatever:

$request = $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'];
$server = $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'];

$prefix = strtolower(substr($server,0,4));
if ($prefix != "www.") {
# combine page rank
header("HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location: http://www.$server$request");
exit;
}

in this case I'm rewriting not www. to www, you probably want to reverse
this as John says www. serves no real purpose. This needs to be at the
top of any PHP script. YMMV.

The pieces begin to fall onto the right spaces in the puzzle. The
password-protected pages which broke were PHP indices and I use 3
installations of PhpWiki.

I estimate that modification of all so-called 'user-facing' PHP scripts would
mean endless testing, which involves risk. I can think of a few dozens of
places where your code ought to be inserted.

Thanks, David.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:23:10 +0200, davidof
<david.george (AT) g-dumpthisbit-mail (DOT) com> wrote:

header("HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location: http://www.$server$request");

header("Location: http://www.$server$request",true,301);

works OK for me, no idea whether one is better or worse.

Best,
Borek
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