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Default Newbie has questions - 02-04-2004 , 11:41 PM






I came to this newsgroup looking for a recommendation for a search
engine other than Google. I've read about 200+ messages on this
newsgroup and all I see is Google.

I'm totally frustrated with Google. I estimate that out of 50 Google
searches, I might find what I'm looking for ONCE! In most cases the
best answer is 20 to 30 entries down from the top. I'm really not too
much of a dummy, either. I generally try several synonyms before I
give up.

From reading this newsgroup, I know that most of you are jockeying for
top listings. Does that help me in finding the information that I am
looking for?

Stupid newbie question: what is the significance of ‘Florida'?

Leo

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Default Re: Newbie has questions - 02-05-2004 , 12:34 AM






On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:41:47 -0600, Leo <leorisng99 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I came to this newsgroup looking for a recommendation for a search
engine other than Google. I've read about 200+ messages on this
newsgroup and all I see is Google.

Unfortunately there isn't one I could recommend.

Most (all?) the other big names will either show gogle results or put
the guy who paid them the most at the top of their 'results' (I.e. not
sown as a sponsored result / adwords result but just given a higher
position because they paid).

Anyone here have a prediction of when a new SE comes along with a
plain simple interface, no sponsored ads at the top of the listing, no
paid listings. 'Revolutionary' idea and might be worth 20 Billion in 5
years what are those venture capitalists doing these days??!!??


Quote:
I'm totally frustrated with Google. I estimate that out of 50 Google
searches, I might find what I'm looking for ONCE! In most cases the
best answer is 20 to 30 entries down from the top. I'm really not too
much of a dummy, either. I generally try several synonyms before I
give up.
Try searching for 3 or 4 words rather than one or two.
Adding words to your search terms will include sites that have been
penalised (justly and unjustly) but which have the words you are
looking for. It should also narrow down your search (remove the sites
without the extra words).


Quote:
From reading this newsgroup, I know that most of you are jockeying for
top listings. Does that help me in finding the information that I am
looking for?
For the folk jostling for top listings for terms that match their
site-product, yes it does. For those jostling for top listings for
irrelevant sites on terms that happen to be popular, no it doesn't.
Don't think anyone here admits to doing that.


Quote:
Stupid newbie question: what is the significance of ‘Florida'?
Leave that one to the experts....


(Not an SEO)
David.

Software author. (please edit my email addr. to prove you're not a dumb 'bot)
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Default Re: Newbie has questions - 02-05-2004 , 06:11 PM




"david" <gohka (AT) kyboma (DOT) intelligent-beings-can-remove-this-part.co.uk>
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:41:47 -0600, Leo <leorisng99 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I came to this newsgroup looking for a recommendation for a search
engine other than Google. I've read about 200+ messages on this
newsgroup and all I see is Google.

Unfortunately there isn't one I could recommend.

Most (all?) the other big names will either show gogle results or put
the guy who paid them the most at the top of their 'results' (I.e. not
sown as a sponsored result / adwords result but just given a higher
position because they paid).

Anyone here have a prediction of when a new SE comes along with a
plain simple interface, no sponsored ads at the top of the listing, no
paid listings. 'Revolutionary' idea and might be worth 20 Billion in 5
years what are those venture capitalists doing these days??!!??


I'm totally frustrated with Google. I estimate that out of 50 Google
searches, I might find what I'm looking for ONCE! In most cases the
best answer is 20 to 30 entries down from the top. I'm really not too
much of a dummy, either. I generally try several synonyms before I
give up.

Try searching for 3 or 4 words rather than one or two.
Adding words to your search terms will include sites that have been
penalised (justly and unjustly) but which have the words you are
looking for. It should also narrow down your search (remove the sites
without the extra words).
Maybe you should try more "regional" SEs: for europe I like kartoo.com and
US surfwax.com.
I do my searches in various SEs (commonly AltaVista, DMOZ and some other
Lycos, Teoma, ...)


Quote:

From reading this newsgroup, I know that most of you are jockeying for
top listings. Does that help me in finding the information that I am
looking for?

For the folk jostling for top listings for terms that match their
site-product, yes it does. For those jostling for top listings for
irrelevant sites on terms that happen to be popular, no it doesn't.
Don't think anyone here admits to doing that.


Stupid newbie question: what is the significance of 'Florida'?

Leave that one to the experts....
Florida comes from Spanish: flor (flower/blossom) and means something like
"the one full of blossoms"

Quote:

(Not an SEO)
David.

Software author. (please edit my email addr. to prove you're not a dumb
'bot)
Web Log Analyzer by Search Term
http://www.1keytools.com/wlabstfeatures.htm
Kybie GetEmAll - Make IE an offline browser
http://www.1keytools.com/offline_browser.htm




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Default Re: Newbie has questions - 02-05-2004 , 10:29 PM



On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:41:47 -0600, Leo <leorisng99 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I came to this newsgroup looking for a recommendation for a search
engine other than Google. I've read about 200+ messages on this
newsgroup and all I see is Google.

I'm totally frustrated with Google. I estimate that out of 50 Google
searches, I might find what I'm looking for ONCE! In most cases the
best answer is 20 to 30 entries down from the top. I'm really not too
much of a dummy, either. I generally try several synonyms before I
give up.

From reading this newsgroup, I know that most of you are jockeying for
top listings. Does that help me in finding the information that I am
looking for?

Stupid newbie question: what is the significance of ‘Florida'?

Leo
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Default Re: Newbie has questions - 02-07-2004 , 12:25 PM



I use Google mostly, I guess you could try www.teemo.com

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"Leo" <leorisng99 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I came to this newsgroup looking for a recommendation for a search
engine other than Google. I've read about 200+ messages on this
newsgroup and all I see is Google.

I'm totally frustrated with Google. I estimate that out of 50 Google
searches, I might find what I'm looking for ONCE! In most cases the
best answer is 20 to 30 entries down from the top. I'm really not too
much of a dummy, either. I generally try several synonyms before I
give up.

From reading this newsgroup, I know that most of you are jockeying for
top listings. Does that help me in finding the information that I am
looking for?

Stupid newbie question: what is the significance of 'Florida'?

Leo



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