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Default multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 06:32 AM






Hi
I have a site working fine and indexed with google on a .com address.

I also bought the .co.uk domain name and would like to forward people
who use the .co.uk to the full site on .com.

Does anyone know if google/search engines frown on this? Can I submit
another domain name that just sends users to my main site??
Any help, theories much appreciated.




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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 07:52 AM






On 5 Apr 2006 03:32:56 -0700, stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk wrote:

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Hi
I have a site working fine and indexed with google on a .com address.

I also bought the .co.uk domain name and would like to forward people
who use the .co.uk to the full site on .com.

Does anyone know if google/search engines frown on this? Can I submit
another domain name that just sends users to my main site??
Any help, theories much appreciated.


301 redirect them and you should be ok.

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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 08:18 AM



<stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
Hi
I have a site working fine and indexed with google on a .com address.

I also bought the .co.uk domain name and would like to forward people
who use the .co.uk to the full site on .com.

Does anyone know if google/search engines frown on this? Can I submit
another domain name that just sends users to my main site??
Any help, theories much appreciated.
Hello

A web domain whose sole purpose is to redirect visitors to other domains is
considered to have less value than a domain which contains unique web
content. Although your purpose for the redirect seems like a logical thing
to do for your visitors and for the search engine spiders, the technique has
been excessively abused in the past as a form of manipulating the search
engine results pages.

In summary, the search engine should not rank the redirecting domain very
highly.

Google implies this : http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html


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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 09:44 AM



Thanks

Does this mean that descriptive web domain names would cause a problem.


eg. I have 'company.com' but it's hard to find if you don't know what
'company' sells. If I have 'fruitandveg.com' surely this would help me
be found in google and direct people to my site but does this cause
blacklisting.

I don't want to spam, annoy etc. just help people find my site.




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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 11:41 AM



On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:18:29 -0400, "canadafred"
<admin (AT) rezultz-web-site-promotion (DOT) com> wrote:

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stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1144233176.497056.40230 (AT) u72g2000cwu (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Hi
I have a site working fine and indexed with google on a .com address.

I also bought the .co.uk domain name and would like to forward people
who use the .co.uk to the full site on .com.

Does anyone know if google/search engines frown on this? Can I submit
another domain name that just sends users to my main site??
Any help, theories much appreciated.

Hello

A web domain whose sole purpose is to redirect visitors to other domains is
considered to have less value than a domain which contains unique web
content. Although your purpose for the redirect seems like a logical thing
to do for your visitors and for the search engine spiders, the technique has
been excessively abused in the past as a form of manipulating the search
engine results pages.

In summary, the search engine should not rank the redirecting domain very
highly.

Google implies this : http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html
On the other hand, I'd flat out disagree with this. Where there's no
intention to deceive, you should be alright.

BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/hoarding-pagerank.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/erte-prints.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/dreamsicles/index.html



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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 11:41 AM



On 5 Apr 2006 06:44:20 -0700, "Stilts" <stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks

Does this mean that descriptive web domain names would cause a problem.


eg. I have 'company.com' but it's hard to find if you don't know what
'company' sells. If I have 'fruitandveg.com' surely this would help me
be found in google and direct people to my site but does this cause
blacklisting.

I don't want to spam, annoy etc. just help people find my site.


I think in theory you'd be ok but in practice where would you stop
doing this and how would it help anyone find your site? The domain
name would just sit there, you couldn't populate it with anything and
have a 301 on it. Not in your strategy anyway.

BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/hoarding-pagerank.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/erte-prints.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/dreamsicles/index.html



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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 11:49 AM



Thanks

In theory, as long as I'm not buying hundreds of domains for
redirections, a search which entered the exact words that are in the
url should come high up on the ranking in google. So descriptive urls
should rank better than obscure company names as domains as you have
more chance of someone looking for your product than your company?

But can you enter a one page domain (possible redirection) into googles
site submission?



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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 12:24 PM



"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:18:29 -0400, "canadafred"
admin (AT) rezultz-web-site-promotion (DOT) com> wrote:

stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1144233176.497056.40230 (AT) u72g2000cwu (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Hi
I have a site working fine and indexed with google on a .com address.

I also bought the .co.uk domain name and would like to forward people
who use the .co.uk to the full site on .com.

Does anyone know if google/search engines frown on this? Can I submit
another domain name that just sends users to my main site??
Any help, theories much appreciated.

Hello

A web domain whose sole purpose is to redirect visitors to other domains
is
considered to have less value than a domain which contains unique web
content. Although your purpose for the redirect seems like a logical thing
to do for your visitors and for the search engine spiders, the technique
has
been excessively abused in the past as a form of manipulating the search
engine results pages.

In summary, the search engine should not rank the redirecting domain very
highly.

Google implies this : http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

On the other hand, I'd flat out disagree with this. Where there's no
intention to deceive, you should be alright.

In a perfect search engine world this would be ideal. If the web site's
function was not to deceive then it should be rewarded for it's intent.
Unfortunately, this isn't a perfect search engine world.

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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 12:41 PM



"Stilts" <stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
Thanks

In theory, as long as I'm not buying hundreds of domains for
redirections, a search which entered the exact words that are in the
url should come high up on the ranking in google. So descriptive urls
should rank better than obscure company names as domains as you have
more chance of someone looking for your product than your company?

But can you enter a one page domain (possible redirection) into googles
site submission?
You are free to submit anything you want in any way that you want.

To think that the domain will show up highly in Google's search engine
results based solely on the domain's name seems in itself an insufficient
SEO tactic.


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Default Re: multiple domain names - 04-05-2006 , 03:53 PM



On 5 Apr 2006 08:49:52 -0700, "Stilts" <stilts1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks

In theory, as long as I'm not buying hundreds of domains for
redirections, a search which entered the exact words that are in the
url should come high up on the ranking in google.
Not any theory I know.

Quote:
So descriptive urls
should rank better than obscure company names as domains as you have
more chance of someone looking for your product than your company?
Bit more to it than urls, my son. I'd stop trying to be clever and
worry about creating a content-rich useful site for your potential
visitors. if I were you.

Quote:
But can you enter a one page domain (possible redirection) into googles
site submission?

You don't submit to engines, just directories.

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http://www.kruse.co.uk/hoarding-pagerank.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/erte-prints.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/dreamsicles/index.html



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