More on spellings and typos

Try typing a few typos or miss-spellings in to google
ie.

mobilr phones
mobile phonew
broadbanf

and you can see what people are up to

site:http://gecki.be
site:http://bafflec.be
site:http://enfinru.be

Looks like they haven't put all their eggs in the same basket
this time and are keeping multiple sites small.


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"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote

Try typing a few typos or miss-spellings in to google
ie.

mobilr phones
mobile phonew
broadbanf

and you can see what people are up to

site:http://gecki.be
site:http://bafflec.be
site:http://enfinru.be

Looks like they haven't put all their eggs in the same basket
this time and are keeping multiple sites small.

Quick follow up:
Try this
http://www.whois.ws/whois-be/ip-address/gecki.be/
registered on 10 August 2006
site:http://gecki.be showing 64,000 pages indexed.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mob...&start=10&sa=N

if each of those has 64,000 pages indexed we are talking
billions of pages.

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__/ [ T.J. ] on Sunday 13 August 2006 10:13 \__

Try typing a few typos or miss-spellings in to google
ie.

mobilr phones
mobile phonew
broadbanf

and you can see what people are up to

site:http://gecki.be
site:http://bafflec.be
site:http://enfinru.be

Looks like they haven't put all their eggs in the same basket
this time and are keeping multiple sites small.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

[sarcasm] Content spam will probably end when the namespace is depleted to
the point where it is fully exhausted. iuwgduiwhsdf21.info, anyone? Such
domain names have been comment-spamming the blogsphere recently.

I guess that cheap registrars like GoDaddy, as well as those who just pick
the bucks regardless of a site's vocation, are a detrimental factor. There
ought to be some rules, e.g. fill out a unique application form to declare
the intent of the site. Buying g00gle.com with the reason "to block fakers
and malware" should be frowned upon, too. In my humble opinion...

The entry barrier to the Net, as well as forums, is said to be a real issue.
In the past, UseNet for example was occupied by technology enthusiasts and
academia. As someone in a different newsgroup once said "Then, it opened
up". The death of neutrality across the Web might be able to slow it down
(think about millions of $100 Linux laptops in developing countries), as
much as I hate Net neutrality. Bandwidth is still cheap and it gives
spammers the incentive to have presence.

With kind regards,

Roy

Roy Schestowitz schreef:

__/ [ T.J. ] on Sunday 13 August 2006 10:13 \__

site:http:// gecki. be
site:http:// bafflec. be
site:http:// enfinru. be

Remove the spaces

Looks like they haven't put all their eggs in the same basket
this time and are keeping multiple sites small.

Hi TJ,

Did find that out to. They build 50k to 60k pages on a site.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

Take all the spammy domains they create now and you will get over 10
billion pages easily.

[sarcasm] Content spam will probably end when the namespace is depleted to
the point where it is fully exhausted. iuwgduiwhsdf21.info, anyone? Such
domain names have been comment-spamming the blogsphere recently.

We have a long way to go then.

That is, if Google isn't doing something about them.

I guess that cheap registrars like GoDaddy, as well as those who just pick
the bucks regardless of a site's vocation, are a detrimental factor. There
ought to be some rules, e.g. fill out a unique application form to declare
the intent of the site. Buying g00gle.com with the reason "to block fakers
and malware" should be frowned upon, too. In my humble opinion...

From my point of view, as stated earlier, block the registrars that
register these domains. They are happy to cash the big bucks and don't
seem to care about ethics at all.

Kick a few and the rest will be more cautious to register bulk domains
and / or with false registration data.

I heard of registrars that make it possible for clients to register
domains themselves. All they do is cash the fees without even checking
if the registration data is correct.

The entry barrier to the Net, as well as forums, is said to be a real issue.
In the past, UseNet for example was occupied by technology enthusiasts and
academia. As someone in a different newsgroup once said "Then, it opened
up". The death of neutrality across the Web might be able to slow it down
(think about millions of $100 Linux laptops in developing countries), as
much as I hate Net neutrality. Bandwidth is still cheap and it gives
spammers the incentive to have presence.

Not that i am an accademic, or even think the internet should be
reserved for a happy few.

Within it lies a danger that it will be flooded, but it also bears some
great opportunity's in it. I think we are in the first stage, the time
things have to settle on the net now it comes more and more available to
the masses.

It for sure will be interresting to watch the developments.

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:24:55 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ T.J. ] on Sunday 13 August 2006 10:13 \__

Try typing a few typos or miss-spellings in to google
ie.

mobilr phones
mobile phonew
broadbanf

and you can see what people are up to

site:http://gecki.be
site:http://bafflec.be
site:http://enfinru.be

Looks like they haven't put all their eggs in the same basket
this time and are keeping multiple sites small.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

[sarcasm] Content spam will probably end when the namespace is depleted to
the point where it is fully exhausted. iuwgduiwhsdf21.info, anyone? Such
domain names have been comment-spamming the blogsphere recently.

I guess that cheap registrars like GoDaddy, as well as those who just pick
the bucks regardless of a site's vocation, are a detrimental factor. There
ought to be some rules,

Where there are rules there must be both reward and penalties. These
tend to cost money. Who would pay in a rules scenario?

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:56:07 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl>
wrote:

Hi TJ,

Did find that out to. They build 50k to 60k pages on a site.

That's not hard to do, I have a script (a free script BTW) that uses
the Amazon XML feed and in 15 minutes (5 mins if pushed) I can have a
duplicate copy of most of Amazon online with static looking URLs
(fully spiderable). And I could do that for every domain I own, could
also create an unlimited number of subdomains each running this
script. Everyone will be a duplicate, but Google will index them and
send traffic to them before eventually filtering them.

Note: I don't do this since I'm working towards long term goals.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

Take all the spammy domains they create now and you will get over 10
billion pages easily.

Wouldn't be surprised (didn't look), thing is if it's duplicate
content Google will eventually filter it (mostly), but it does take
time and in that time they make money.

Also to get a billion pages indexed in Google you need a shit load of
links. I suppose if they have automated comment spamming scripts
running that isn't a major problem!

Google can't win this battle (not in the short term), with the right
tools you could easily add one hundred 50,000 page sites a day without
breaking a sweat, every day for very little cost.

You can get a domain for $2 a year (I've seen .info domain for 60
cents!), server for well under $1,000 a year and so if you use
subdomains for less than $10 a day (1 paid domain, 99 free subdomains)
you can add 5,000,000 pages a day (~2 billion pages a year)!! Won't be
indexed that quickly, but they'll be available for spidering.

And that's holding back, one resourceful person could easily do 10
even 100 times more than the above.

David
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Google can't win this battle (not in the short term), with the right
tools you could easily add one hundred 50,000 page sites a day without
breaking a sweat, every day for very little cost.

Google can't win this battle?

Give me a break. The domains are limited since they al have so much
pages so all they have to do is put some people on checking feedback
from webmasters(work with trusted webmasters, candidates enough).

When somebody sees a domain he reports it and they take it out their
db. In a few days you can get millions off pages out the db.
Do this a year and there will not much people who spent/invest money on
doing the spamming.

They have to do just this, costs a few people and theire index will be
almost spamfree.
It will not be totally clean but then it's not intresting anymore for
the spammers. And there lays the problem now, it's intresting.

They can win the battle but i don't know whether it's intresting for
Google to win it.

"David" <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:56:07 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl
wrote:

Hi TJ,

Did find that out to. They build 50k to 60k pages on a site.

That's not hard to do, I have a script (a free script BTW) that uses
the Amazon XML feed and in 15 minutes (5 mins if pushed) I can have a
duplicate copy of most of Amazon online with static looking URLs
(fully spiderable). And I could do that for every domain I own, could
also create an unlimited number of subdomains each running this
script. Everyone will be a duplicate, but Google will index them and
send traffic to them before eventually filtering them.

Note: I don't do this since I'm working towards long term goals.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my
opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated
the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

Take all the spammy domains they create now and you will get over 10
billion pages easily.

Wouldn't be surprised (didn't look), thing is if it's duplicate
content Google will eventually filter it (mostly), but it does take
time and in that time they make money.

Also to get a billion pages indexed in Google you need a shit load of
links. I suppose if they have automated comment spamming scripts
running that isn't a major problem!

Google can't win this battle (not in the short term), with the right
tools you could easily add one hundred 50,000 page sites a day without
breaking a sweat, every day for very little cost.

You can get a domain for $2 a year (I've seen .info domain for 60
cents!), server for well under $1,000 a year and so if you use
subdomains for less than $10 a day (1 paid domain, 99 free subdomains)
you can add 5,000,000 pages a day (~2 billion pages a year)!! Won't be
indexed that quickly, but they'll be available for spidering.

And that's holding back, one resourceful person could easily do 10
even 100 times more than the above.

David

These are on .be domains (Belgium)
They were given away free of charge last year.
try this,

allintitle:"Here are some links to sites where"

8 million plus pages indexed already
some of the sites with 64,000 pages indexed
were only registered 3 days ago.

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:12:15 +0100, "T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

"David" <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:m5jud296gdu39tt9vo1v45c4c27c5kjdlt (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:56:07 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl
wrote:

Hi TJ,

Did find that out to. They build 50k to 60k pages on a site.

That's not hard to do, I have a script (a free script BTW) that uses
the Amazon XML feed and in 15 minutes (5 mins if pushed) I can have a
duplicate copy of most of Amazon online with static looking URLs
(fully spiderable). And I could do that for every domain I own, could
also create an unlimited number of subdomains each running this
script. Everyone will be a duplicate, but Google will index them and
send traffic to them before eventually filtering them.

Note: I don't do this since I'm working towards long term goals.

Small? I only checked the first one. 64k pages is not small in my
opinion,
unless you compare that against that former 'disease' which contaminated
the
indices and cache with 5-10 billion pages/subsites...

Take all the spammy domains they create now and you will get over 10
billion pages easily.

Wouldn't be surprised (didn't look), thing is if it's duplicate
content Google will eventually filter it (mostly), but it does take
time and in that time they make money.

Also to get a billion pages indexed in Google you need a shit load of
links. I suppose if they have automated comment spamming scripts
running that isn't a major problem!

Google can't win this battle (not in the short term), with the right
tools you could easily add one hundred 50,000 page sites a day without
breaking a sweat, every day for very little cost.

You can get a domain for $2 a year (I've seen .info domain for 60
cents!), server for well under $1,000 a year and so if you use
subdomains for less than $10 a day (1 paid domain, 99 free subdomains)
you can add 5,000,000 pages a day (~2 billion pages a year)!! Won't be
indexed that quickly, but they'll be available for spidering.

And that's holding back, one resourceful person could easily do 10
even 100 times more than the above.

David

These are on .be domains (Belgium)
They were given away free of charge last year.
try this,

allintitle:"Here are some links to sites where"

8 million plus pages indexed already
some of the sites with 64,000 pages indexed
were only registered 3 days ago.

They juggle the text, I notice.

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On 13 Aug 2006 10:21:17 -0700, "Fikkie" <pascal.beyens (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Google can't win this battle (not in the short term), with the right
tools you could easily add one hundred 50,000 page sites a day without
breaking a sweat, every day for very little cost.

Google can't win this battle?
Give me a break. The domains are limited since they al have so much
pages so all they have to do is put some people on checking feedback
from webmasters(work with trusted webmasters, candidates enough).

All true, they could. Though you don't know a domain has a lot of
pages until it's indexed and then it's too late, the search engine is
sending traffic, so the site owner has already won.

When somebody sees a domain he reports it and they take it out their
db. In a few days you can get millions off pages out the db.

True, they could and they do to a degree, but there are so many
reports it would be impossible to act on them all (they have to
investigate them all!).

Do this a year and there will not much people who spent/invest money on
doing the spamming.

Untrue, lets say it cost $20 to create and maintain a spammer site for
a week and in that time (the first week) they make $40 and then Google
bans them. That's 100% profit in a week and you can practically create
an unlimited amount of these sites for way less than $20. How many
sites like that would you need to make it worth your while?

This is why they do so many sites, they expect them to be banned, it's
a war of numbers and they win because some get through (Google can't
get them all quickly enough).

They have to do just this, costs a few people and theire index will be
almost spamfree.
It will not be totally clean but then it's not intresting anymore for
the spammers. And there lays the problem now, it's intresting.

They can win the battle but i don't know whether it's intresting for
Google to win it.

You are underestimating the spammers, 1 person can easily put a
billion pages online in a year and not the crap on the sites we are
seeing in this thread (think Wikipedia and DMOZ mirrors etc...). Now
multiply that by thousands of spammers all doing their own thing,
Google can't WIN the battle, it can only fight and hope it gets enough
so it's index isn't ruined (that's a win for Google).

I guess it's like killing rats in a large city, no matter how hard you
fight they'll always be around, so you are always fighting a loosing
battle. But that's alright, because like fighting rats as long as they
don't take over the streets (the important money SERPs) and are
basically limited to sewers and back alleys (easy unimportant SERPs,
with not too much money in them) we can tolerate them.

David
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