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Default More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-11-2006 , 03:28 PM






A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -
obviously to stop web sales. I was told by a director at Grohe that web
sales would be stopped.

Trademarks cannot be used but the trade name can and must be used, ie a
Ford car is a Ford car. If I say it is a Smith car, that is not legal.


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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-12-2006 , 10:01 AM






Logician wrote:
Quote:
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -
obviously to stop web sales. I was told by a director at Grohe that web
sales would be stopped.

Trademarks cannot be used but the trade name can and must be used, ie a
Ford car is a Ford car. If I say it is a Smith car, that is not legal.
Another perfectly clear communication from the great communicator.

Sorry, Bud ... but I do NOT have a clue as to what you are talking
about.

Sounds like you are publicly advertising the fact that your web site,
or what ever, is engaging in "trademark infringement" practices. That
means YOU personally, does it NOT?



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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-12-2006 , 10:27 AM



"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -
IANAL, but in what country is it VERY ILLEGAL to sell a branded item without
mentioning the manufacturer? Don't believe it is in the UK.

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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-12-2006 , 10:55 AM




John Blessing wrote:
Quote:
"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1160594928.779831.319450 (AT) m7g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -

IANAL, but in what country is it VERY ILLEGAL to sell a branded item without
mentioning the manufacturer? Don't believe it is in the UK.
It is passing off - do you even know what that is?

Quote:
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John Blessing

http://www.LbeHelpdesk.com - Help Desk software priced to suit all
businesses
http://www.room-booking-software.com - Schedule rooms & equipment bookings
for your meeting/class over the web.
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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-12-2006 , 10:58 AM




johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Logician wrote:
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -
obviously to stop web sales. I was told by a director at Grohe that web
sales would be stopped.

Trademarks cannot be used but the trade name can and must be used, ie a
Ford car is a Ford car. If I say it is a Smith car, that is not legal.

Another perfectly clear communication from the great communicator.

Sorry, Bud ... but I do NOT have a clue as to what you are talking
about.

Sounds like you are publicly advertising the fact that your web site,
or what ever, is engaging in "trademark infringement" practices. That
means YOU personally, does it NOT?
No, I was saying thet Google is trading illegally, I am trading
legally. You can tell the difference as one word has the letters "il"
preceding the word legal - hence illegal.

Just saying you don't understand it and the communication is bad, is
like saying a Japanese newspaper is written badly because French people
do not understand it.



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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-12-2006 , 12:59 PM




"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
John Blessing wrote:
"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1160594928.779831.319450 (AT) m7g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -

IANAL, but in what country is it VERY ILLEGAL to sell a branded item
without
mentioning the manufacturer? Don't believe it is in the UK.

It is passing off - do you even know what that is?


DUH. Passing off is claiming to be something else. You said it was illegal
to NOT TO state the manufacturer name of any advertised item.

So, according to you, I can't advertise "Estate car for sale" without
specifying the manufacturer . Lots of items are sold without specifying the
manufacturer name in the ad. Anyway, I'm done splitting hairs with you. <g>


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businesses
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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-13-2006 , 02:52 AM




John Blessing wrote:
Quote:
"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1160664916.627227.261690 (AT) c28g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

John Blessing wrote:
"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1160594928.779831.319450 (AT) m7g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
A real email from google (to me) - Google just cancelled my ads for
"trademark infringement"


Action taken: Suspended - Pending Revision
Issue(s): Ad Text Trademark Term
~~~~~~~~~

SUGGESTIONS:
->-> Ad Text: Please remove the following trademark term from your
ad: "grohe".


No surprise there. But Google seems to be endorsing PASSING OFF - that
is when you sell a branded item without saying the brand name (to avoid
price comparisons). It is common practice but VERY ILLEGAL. It is a
legal requirement when advertising ANY product to state the
manufacturer name. Google actually prohibits that being done -

IANAL, but in what country is it VERY ILLEGAL to sell a branded item
without
mentioning the manufacturer? Don't believe it is in the UK.

It is passing off - do you even know what that is?



DUH. Passing off is claiming to be something else. You said it was illegal
to NOT TO state the manufacturer name of any advertised item.

If you are selling something and not stating the manufacturer you are
misrepresenting by omission.


Quote:
So, according to you, I can't advertise "Estate car for sale" without
specifying the manufacturer . Lots of items are sold without specifying the
manufacturer name in the ad. Anyway, I'm done splitting hairs with you. <g


It is not about hairs, you just do not understand retail - how many
retail have you done?



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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-13-2006 , 09:27 AM



Logician wrote:

Quote:
Sounds like you are publicly advertising the fact that your web site,
or what ever, is engaging in "trademark infringement" practices. That
means YOU personally, does it NOT?

No, I was saying thet Google is trading illegally, I am trading
legally. You can tell the difference as one word has the letters "il"
preceding the word legal - hence illegal.
Sorry, but Google is both good and great. Did you not read the memo?
Google wouldn't make a mistake anymore than God would.

SERPs are be fixed, but PRs certainly are NOT! Nor, does the public
give a hoot about PRs.

Quote:
Just saying you don't understand it and the communication is bad, is
like saying a Japanese newspaper is written badly because French people
do not understand it.
Silly me, I thought that Google might have dumped your ads because you
don't communicate too well.



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Logician
 
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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-13-2006 , 10:41 AM




johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Logician wrote:

Sounds like you are publicly advertising the fact that your web site,
or what ever, is engaging in "trademark infringement" practices. That
means YOU personally, does it NOT?

No, I was saying thet Google is trading illegally, I am trading
legally. You can tell the difference as one word has the letters "il"
preceding the word legal - hence illegal.

Sorry, but Google is both good and great. Did you not read the memo?
Google wouldn't make a mistake anymore than God would.

SERPs are be fixed, but PRs certainly are NOT! Nor, does the public
give a hoot about PRs.

Just saying you don't understand it and the communication is bad, is
like saying a Japanese newspaper is written badly because French people
do not understand it.

Silly me, I thought that Google might have dumped your ads because you
don't communicate too well.
You have a fixation about communication: like you are a world authority
on it.



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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com
 
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Default Re: More illegality at Google's Hands - 10-13-2006 , 11:15 AM



Logician wrote:
Quote:
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:
Logician wrote:

Sounds like you are publicly advertising the fact that your web site,
or what ever, is engaging in "trademark infringement" practices. That
means YOU personally, does it NOT?

No, I was saying thet Google is trading illegally, I am trading
legally. You can tell the difference as one word has the letters "il"
preceding the word legal - hence illegal.

Sorry, but Google is both good and great. Did you not read the memo?
Google wouldn't make a mistake anymore than God would.

SERPs are be fixed, but PRs certainly are NOT! Nor, does the public
give a hoot about PRs.

Just saying you don't understand it and the communication is bad, is
like saying a Japanese newspaper is written badly because French people
do not understand it.

Silly me, I thought that Google might have dumped your ads because you
don't communicate too well.

You have a fixation about communication: like you are a world authority
on it.
Well, Google has NEVER trashed me.

And, I know the difference between a SERP and PR. An article on SERP
would have been intelligent, while the article on RP was plain bad.

I know that much.



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