Minus 30 Google penalty: anyone here affected?

Denise wrote:

Brad, why do you think the alt text has anything to do with it? (Sorry - I
can't read the WMW thread because I don't want to pay to subscribe to that
site.

Someone in the WMW thread mentioned the alt text as a possible cause for the
drop in SERPs. I thought I'd try it since I couldn't think of anything else
on my website that could look like even like grey hat - let alone black hat -
and it seems to have worked. Same SERP this morning as yesterday - 23
positions ahead of what it has been at the past few months.

--
Brad Blanchard
Learn Spanish
Website http://www.braser.com/
Email accepted from the website

David schreef:

On 22 Oct 2006 02:46:04 -0700, "Fikkie" <pascal.beyens (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I have big troubles with my own domains even not showing up when i do
the search.
Absolutely not normal.
But i am with a cheap hoster who puts lot of sites on 1 server and
probably 1 ip.
So i am going to move the sites to a not shared server.

Just curios about the hosting side off this problem. Give some input
please.

How would shared hosting be causing this?

1) hijacked sites who sent spam to the world

Unless you site was jacked it won't harm your rankings.

2) to many pages on 1 server

Makes no difference as Google doesn't go by server or IP address I
have banned sites on the same server and IP of sites doing really
well. There are servers with hundreds of thousands of sites on them,
yet individual sites do well.

3) ?

If you think something is wrong with your site post the URL and what
you think is wrong and you might be lucky and get the right cause (if
something is wrong).

IME most sites that rank poorly are due to a lack of
optimisation/links and or age (age of links to be precise
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/goo...x-effect.html).

We'll see when i move my sites

I wouldn't expect and improvement.

BTW check your domain here http://www.whois.sc/ to see how many sites
are using the same IP. For example
http://whois.domaintools.com/seo-gold.com is sharing the IP with 17
other sites, the server though has about 200 domains hosted and a
bunch of sub-domains.

David
--
SEO Tutorial http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
More Earnings Blog http://www.morearnings.com/

See, it's my server.
I don't get that info ...
Only the dns record
no registry data and no server dat and no domaintools exclusive info

Is there a reason why i don't get the same info? (site is almost a year
old)

Fikkie schreef:

David schreef:

On 22 Oct 2006 02:46:04 -0700, "Fikkie" <pascal.beyens (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I have big troubles with my own domains even not showing up when i do
the search.
Absolutely not normal.
But i am with a cheap hoster who puts lot of sites on 1 server and
probably 1 ip.
So i am going to move the sites to a not shared server.

Just curios about the hosting side off this problem. Give some input
please.

How would shared hosting be causing this?

1) hijacked sites who sent spam to the world

Unless you site was jacked it won't harm your rankings.

2) to many pages on 1 server

Makes no difference as Google doesn't go by server or IP address I
have banned sites on the same server and IP of sites doing really
well. There are servers with hundreds of thousands of sites on them,
yet individual sites do well.

3) ?

If you think something is wrong with your site post the URL and what
you think is wrong and you might be lucky and get the right cause (if
something is wrong).

IME most sites that rank poorly are due to a lack of
optimisation/links and or age (age of links to be precise
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/goo...x-effect.html).

We'll see when i move my sites

I wouldn't expect and improvement.

BTW check your domain here http://www.whois.sc/ to see how many sites
are using the same IP. For example
http://whois.domaintools.com/seo-gold.com is sharing the IP with 17
other sites, the server though has about 200 domains hosted and a
bunch of sub-domains.

David
--
SEO Tutorial http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
More Earnings Blog http://www.morearnings.com/

See, it's my server.
I don't get that info ...
Only the dns record
no registry data and no server dat and no domaintools exclusive info

Is there a reason why i don't get the same info? (site is almost a year
old)

so i did a reverse dns lookup

21 sites, mine not listed
i have a .nl domain and a .be on the same server. There is no other
site with a .be or .nl on the same ip.

What is going on here?

On 22 Oct 2006 10:28:46 -0700, "Fikkie" <pascal.beyens (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

BTW check your domain here http://www.whois.sc/ to see how many sites
are using the same IP. For example
http://whois.domaintools.com/seo-gold.com is sharing the IP with 17
other sites, the server though has about 200 domains hosted and a
bunch of sub-domains.

David
--
SEO Tutorial http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
More Earnings Blog http://www.morearnings.com/

See, it's my server.
I don't get that info ...
Only the dns record
no registry data and no server dat and no domaintools exclusive info

Is there a reason why i don't get the same info? (site is almost a year
old)

so i did a reverse dns lookup

21 sites, mine not listed
i have a .nl domain and a .be on the same server. There is no other
site with a .be or .nl on the same ip.

What is going on here?

Your URL would help.

David
--
SERPS http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/serps-competition.html
AdSense Tips http://www.morearnings.com/2006/05/08/adsense-revenue/

David schreef:

On 22 Oct 2006 10:28:46 -0700, "Fikkie" <pascal.beyens (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

BTW check your domain here http://www.whois.sc/ to see how many sites
are using the same IP. For example
http://whois.domaintools.com/seo-gold.com is sharing the IP with 17
other sites, the server though has about 200 domains hosted and a
bunch of sub-domains.

David
--
SEO Tutorial http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
More Earnings Blog http://www.morearnings.com/

See, it's my server.
I don't get that info ...
Only the dns record
no registry data and no server dat and no domaintools exclusive info

Is there a reason why i don't get the same info? (site is almost a year
old)

so i did a reverse dns lookup

21 sites, mine not listed
i have a .nl domain and a .be on the same server. There is no other
site with a .be or .nl on the same ip.

What is going on here?

Your URL would help.

David
--
SERPS http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/serps-competition.html
AdSense Tips http://www.morearnings.com/2006/05/08/adsense-revenue/

This is a site on the same ip :
http://whois.domaintools.com/vangoghhuis.com

No sign off my sites when checking other sites on this ip

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:59:19 GMT, "Denise" <dionyza (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:g28mj29p23f2mi1mes9clspkphhnf0otnp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:59:45 GMT, "Denise" <dionyza (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
wrote:

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"Brad Blanchard" <1122 (AT) 1122noexiste (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:VA.00003014.1a188be8 (AT) braser (DOT) com...
Www.1-script.com wrote:

I hope you are not, but if you are, please post some data about your
site:
how old, how many links per page max, ever been a part of linking
cooperative and so forth.

I looked into this after reading your message since my site went down 30
places on the SERPs in late April, went back up a bit, and then went
back
down and has stayed down since the end of May.

After reading the thread at WMW, three days ago I went through my site
and
replaced the text of all " alt= my targeted keywords " with innocuous
text
and this morning, my SERPs had moved up 23 places. Let's hope it stays
that
way.

--
Brad Blanchard

Brad, why do you think the alt text has anything to do with it? (Sorry - I
can't read the WMW thread because I don't want to pay to subscribe to that
site.)

Very curious.
best,
Denise

Denise baby! go peek at www.here-be-posters.co.uk/eyes.htm - scary I
tells ya!


Very amusing, Bill! :-)

Not when you see it from the inside :-(

Also I don't think you have to pay to see wmw, you just have to
register.

BB


Really? Every time I try to acccess a thread there, I'm taken to a page that
gives a login form & 2 payment options.
cheers ~
Denise

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http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-sitemap.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/art-prints-sitemap.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/lithographs.htm

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:59:19 GMT, "Denise" <dionyza (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:g28mj29p23f2mi1mes9clspkphhnf0otnp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:59:45 GMT, "Denise" <dionyza (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
wrote:

-
"Brad Blanchard" <1122 (AT) 1122noexiste (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:VA.00003014.1a188be8 (AT) braser (DOT) com...
Www.1-script.com wrote:

I hope you are not, but if you are, please post some data about your
site:
how old, how many links per page max, ever been a part of linking
cooperative and so forth.

I looked into this after reading your message since my site went down 30
places on the SERPs in late April, went back up a bit, and then went
back
down and has stayed down since the end of May.

After reading the thread at WMW, three days ago I went through my site
and
replaced the text of all " alt= my targeted keywords " with innocuous
text
and this morning, my SERPs had moved up 23 places. Let's hope it stays
that
way.

--
Brad Blanchard

Brad, why do you think the alt text has anything to do with it? (Sorry - I
can't read the WMW thread because I don't want to pay to subscribe to that
site.)

Very curious.
best,
Denise

Denise baby! go peek at www.here-be-posters.co.uk/eyes.htm - scary I
tells ya!


Very amusing, Bill! :-)

Also I don't think you have to pay to see wmw, you just have to
register.

BB


Really? Every time I try to acccess a thread there, I'm taken to a page that
gives a login form & 2 payment options.
cheers ~
Denise

I don't believe I ever paid. I'll check on my new machine that doesn't
have a cookie.

BB

--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-sitemap.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/art-prints-sitemap.htm
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/lithographs.htm