Microsoft on MSN Search

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6044803.html

Addressing the issue of search quality and bundling of search bars in Vista

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What we're saying is that in six months' time we'll be more relevant in the
U.S. market place than Google," said Neil Holloway, Microsoft president for
Europe, Middle East and Africa.

[...]

You've also got to take a step back and say where do you integrate," he
said.

Microsoft will put its search engine into its widely used communications
tools Windows Messenger and Hotmail.
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:13:10 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6044803.html

Addressing the issue of search quality and bundling of search bars in Vista

[...]

aaah, yah, you beat me to it. I saw it earlier as well and you surely came
to mind Roy.

What gets me is the following:
<quote>
Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace Windows XP
later this year or early next year.

"Should we add a Google-like search engine, but twice as good, hard-core
into Windows? Guess what. If we did that, I don't think a company called
Google would be very happy," he said.
</quote>

Hmpthtphtpht! I don't believe it for a minute. Their integrating it into
Vista was the one thing I was betting on carrying them over for the kill.
Or did their last fiasco against Netscape finally hit home? hahaha, I doubt
it. Like I've always said. Ole Billy gets a woody everytime someone
whispers 'class action suit' and 'antitrust' into his ear.


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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

| Microsoft will put its search engine into its widely used
| communications tools Windows Messenger and Hotmail.
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It's already into MSN Messenger (since version 6 IIRC). Windows Messenger
is what standard comes with Windows nowadays, and yeah, I can imagine that
they upgrade it to MSN Messenger. Probably most people use MSN Messenger
anyway (instead of Windows Messenger), so nothing new.

BTW, I never use the search in MSN Messenger, but that's probably because
I am not the average person. Before it was in MSN Messenger I had my own
bot that copied a link back when I typed g something.

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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6044803.html

"Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace Windows XP
later this year or early next year."

Sh't. I was kind of hoping they'd take a run at Google with integrating MSN
Search into the next O/S update.

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"canadafred" wrote ...

"Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace Windows
XP later this year or early next year."

Sh't. I was kind of hoping they'd take a run at Google with integrating
MSN Search into the next O/S update.

They'd be in court forever; they've only just settled various EU cases about
forcing IE on people, without starting over on MSN Search - and (unlike
WordPerfect and Netscape), Google would not take it lying down.

Nice to see Microsoft is still learning ;o)
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__/ [ Who Turned Off The Lights? ] on Thursday 02 March 2006 07:24 \__

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:13:10 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6044803.html

Addressing the issue of search quality and bundling of search bars in
Vista

[...]

aaah, yah, you beat me to it. I saw it earlier as well and you surely came
to mind Roy.

What gets me is the following:
quote
Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace Windows XP
later this year or early next year.

"Should we add a Google-like search engine, but twice as good, hard-core
into Windows? Guess what. If we did that, I don't think a company called
Google would be very happy," he said.
/quote

Hmpthtphtpht! I don't believe it for a minute. Their integrating it into
Vista was the one thing I was betting on carrying them over for the kill.
Or did their last fiasco against Netscape finally hit home? hahaha, I doubt
it. Like I've always said. Ole Billy gets a woody everytime someone
whispers 'class action suit' and 'antitrust' into his ear.

I actually thought they had integrated a search bar into Internet Explorer 7.
Again, it's up for the court to judge how far this can go. Earlier today I
read that Google Sitemaps can give insight to their users about SERP's....

via Digg: "Google sitemaps turned on a new feature today. Now you have the
ability to not only look at what people search for and click on to get to
your site, but today you can now see what average position that phrase or
keyword comes up at! This makes things sooo much easier for SEO."

This is by no means a comparison, but just an arbitrary observation.

Makes you wonder...

Best wishes,

Roy

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__/ [ John Bokma ] on Thursday 02 March 2006 07:59 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

| Microsoft will put its search engine into its widely used
| communications tools Windows Messenger and Hotmail.
`----

It's already into MSN Messenger (since version 6 IIRC). Windows Messenger
is what standard comes with Windows nowadays, and yeah, I can imagine that
they upgrade it to MSN Messenger. Probably most people use MSN Messenger
anyway (instead of Windows Messenger), so nothing new.

BTW, I never use the search in MSN Messenger, but that's probably because
I am not the average person. Before it was in MSN Messenger I had my own
bot that copied a link back when I typed g something.

ICO comes with a Google search bar, judging from what I could gather when my
sister used it (I first used ICQ when I was 15). It makes it somewhat
balanced, but then again, ICQ is not bundled to an operating system, to
which many people's data is lock. *smile* (pardon my rant!)

Roy

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__/ [ Andrew Heenan ] on Thursday 02 March 2006 11:58 \__

"canadafred" wrote ...
"Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace Windows
XP later this year or early next year."

Sh't. I was kind of hoping they'd take a run at Google with integrating
MSN Search into the next O/S update.

They'd be in court forever; they've only just settled various EU cases
about forcing IE on people, without starting over on MSN Search - and
(unlike WordPerfect and Netscape), Google would not take it lying down.

Nice to see Microsoft is still learning ;o)

Yes, learning to develop a search engine "twice as good" (as Google). That's
the way they phrased it anyway...

This could turn out to be another case where a poorer product is imposed on
many people. Take for instance the fact the most people still use Internet
Explorer for their Web surfing. If it had to face competition and be
downloaded separately, people would have opted for something else.

Best wishes,

Roy

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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

__/ [ Andrew Heenan ] on Thursday 02 March 2006 11:58 \__

"canadafred" wrote ...
"Holloway said Microsoft has no plans to integrate its search engine
into
Vista, the new Microsoft Windows operating system set to replace
Windows
XP later this year or early next year."

Sh't. I was kind of hoping they'd take a run at Google with integrating
MSN Search into the next O/S update.

They'd be in court forever; they've only just settled various EU cases
about forcing IE on people, without starting over on MSN Search - and
(unlike WordPerfect and Netscape), Google would not take it lying down.

Nice to see Microsoft is still learning ;o)

Yes, learning to develop a search engine "twice as good" (as Google).
That's
the way they phrased it anyway...

Read that this morning too. Sounds exciting.

This could turn out to be another case where a poorer product is imposed
on
many people. Take for instance the fact the most people still use Internet
Explorer for their Web surfing. If it had to face competition and be
downloaded separately, people would have opted for something else

Could be. Have to wait and see I guess.

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