Linkvault any good?

Sorry if this has already been asked but I can't find a post relating to it
so here goes.

I'm considering using linkvault which as I'm sure everyone knows is a free
co-operative link exchange that claims to dynamically generate 'static'
links on your site for you.

I've done some searches on the service and some people advise that Google
will ban sites using the service and some say its great.

Does anyone have any experience of the service or advice about its
effectiveness or Google friendliness (or other SEs for that matter!)

Ian Middleton
Oxford

__/ [Ian Middleton] on Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:46 \__

Sorry if this has already been asked but I can't find a post relating to
it so here goes.

I'm considering using linkvault which as I'm sure everyone knows is a free
co-operative link exchange that claims to dynamically generate 'static'
links on your site for you.

This reminds me of WebRings, which do not truly appear to work. I wonder to
what extent JavaScript and other rotating links lead to linkage being
ignored. If so, how can one reliably tell apart 'organic' rotation and a
genuine one? script-1 mentioned the issue with rotation of links some time
ago.

I've done some searches on the service and some people advise that Google
will ban sites using the service and some say its great.

Will such a service be detectable? And if so, what will prevent yet another
similar (less reputed or /notorious/ rather) service from cropping up?
Sometimes people say things merely to create a scare.

Does anyone have any experience of the service or advice about its
effectiveness or Google friendliness (or other SEs for that matter!)

Ian Middleton
Oxford

Try not to full search engines. Bad practices don't pay off and Florida
update/project (or whatever it was called) eradicated link farms already.
rel="nofollow" _supposedly_ brought comment spam to an end.

These updates are often leading to high maintenance on the developer's side
more than anything else. Web designers, whose tendency to SEO is verging 0,
need to rel="nofollow" their validation metas and content producers must
think what will and what will not incur a penalty. It's like the very
construction of a site has become SE-oriented since of the plaster of
Almighty G's algorithms keeps scraping off whenever a new type of spammer
hits.

Roy

PS - I am whining, not offering a solution.

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i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark


"Ian Middleton" <imid (AT) argenteus (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Sorry if this has already been asked but I can't find a post relating to
it
so here goes.

I'm considering using linkvault which as I'm sure everyone knows is a free
co-operative link exchange that claims to dynamically generate 'static'
links on your site for you.

I've done some searches on the service and some people advise that Google
will ban sites using the service and some say its great.

Does anyone have any experience of the service or advice about its
effectiveness or Google friendliness (or other SEs for that matter!)

Ian Middleton
Oxford

"mark | r" <trooperbill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any
link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark

You want to be associated to a porn site if they linked to you?

Stacey

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:01:24 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Web designers, whose tendency to SEO is verging 0,
need to rel="nofollow" their validation metas and content producers must
think what will and what will not incur a penalty.

What does "rel="nofollow" their validation metas" mean?

David
--
Free Search Engine Optimization Tutorial
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/

__/ [David] on Tuesday 11 October 2005 13:28 \__

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:01:24 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Web designers, whose tendency to SEO is verging 0,
need to rel="nofollow" their validation metas and content producers must
think what will and what will not incur a penalty.

What does "rel="nofollow" their validation metas" mean?

Leaking no PageRank, thereby acknowledging a validation service from the
World Wide Web Consortium. There are certain links that serve a purpose
rather than be relevant, expand on content or act as a citation. If these
are followed, the values upon which PageRank is based (as a concept) break,
e.g. Googlebombing.

Roy

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http://Schestowitz.com | SuSE Linux | PGP-Key: 74572E8E
1:30pm up 47 days 1:44, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.15, 0.16

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:25:40 +0200, "Stacey"
<Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"mark | r" <trooperbill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:434b924f$0$17385$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...


i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any
link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark

You want to be associated to a porn site if they linked to you?

Stacey

Erotic jewellery porn would be ok.

BB

--
www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
Elvis does my SEO

According to the blurb from linkvault the sites submitted are vetted by a
real person and they have a policy of rejecting sites with adult content.

Ian

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:25:40 +0200, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"mark | r" <trooperbill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:434b924f$0$17385$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...


i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any
link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark

You want to be associated to a porn site if they linked to you?

Stacey

Erotic jewellery porn would be ok.

BB

--
www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
Elvis does my SEO

And have you seen an improvement in your rankings on Google?

Ian


"mark | r" <trooperbill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any
link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark


"Ian Middleton" <imid (AT) argenteus (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1129024000.31500.0 (AT) nnrp-t71-02 (DOT) news.clara.net...


Sorry if this has already been asked but I can't find a post relating to
it
so here goes.

I'm considering using linkvault which as I'm sure everyone knows is a
free
co-operative link exchange that claims to dynamically generate 'static'
links on your site for you.

I've done some searches on the service and some people advise that Google
will ban sites using the service and some say its great.

Does anyone have any experience of the service or advice about its
effectiveness or Google friendliness (or other SEs for that matter!)

Ian Middleton
Oxford

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:25:40 +0200, "Stacey"
Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"mark | r" <trooperbill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:434b924f$0$17385$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...


i dont know if its any good, but i use it - i take the stance that any
link
from a site associated with my target phrases can only be a good one.

mark

You want to be associated to a porn site if they linked to you?



Erotic jewellery porn would be ok.

I thought chastity belts were out of style.:-)

Stacey