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Linking from directories -
07-10-2006
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All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? -- Get away from it all http://www.travelfreebies.co.uk/thomson-holidays.htm Late deals, mega cheap flights and bargains |
getting links from better-quality directories.
There are thousands of directories out there and many have PR0 (though who
knows what they'll have after the next update).
Those directories are unlikely to drive much traffic to your site, give you
much PR, count for much link-wise, or really be worth your time to submit to
them. I don't bother with them.
Lots of the PR0 directories, too, seem to require a reciprocal link ~ yuck.
I've found that sticking with established directories with good PR will give
you better results faster. Most directory submission campaigns I've done -
using just 100-150 really good, proven directories, both general &
specialized - have resulted in good PR (usually 4 to begin with) for the new
(previously PR0) sites promoted.
indie
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All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? |
Look internally mogga. Have a little fun too. Hey mogga, let's play the
web site promotion strategy game.
Ok, pick some keyphrases ... let see ... got some? ... Now let's start
by brewing up some Keyphrase Title Soup. Let's grab handfulls of that
and that and squash them together. Holy shit that looks good eh. Now,
form a web site skeleton together mogga. Build your skeleton with the
soup stuff. Start playing with some meat. Squish that meat between your
fingers. We need some muscles mogga! Write Mogga! Write good content
about your stuff. Good writings, describing your stuff. Throw some of
it here and there, what the hell, make a real stinking mess of it in
the corner over there, that's Ok, If you want it afetr you can sweep it
under the rug. One over there too and Pictures too. My god put some
pictures in there, you have to put on some skin and dress up when you
offer the web site out to the world.
Play the Keyphrase Anchors Congruency game along the way and develop
your own credibility and authenticity.
Stand alone mogga! Stand firm and go challenge the World! Have fun ....
note to myself : probably a good time for a doobie break
--
Fred
http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b...itle-soup.html
http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b...ongruency.html
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"mogga" <di (AT) NOSPAMPLEASEmogga (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7s75b2ptq1vdrr6ih2vannheq5ve0n75os (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? |
Higher quality pages with good PR and few outgoing links are always the
best, but living in the real world Anchor Text is paramount. You could get
your Anchor Text from sitewides which are good for MSN and Yahoo! but Google
is a little more fussy.
Anchor text from lots of different IP addresses even if they are PR0 still
counts well in Google, just make sure the page the link is on has been seen
by Google (cached) and ensure the link is a true HREF- with no sneeky
noindex or nofollows.
Matt
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All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. |
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Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? |
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Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? |
you traffic, then I doubt they'll do you much good so if it's a big
time thing submitting to them I probably wouldn't bother. Why are they
zero-pr'd, though? Are they new? if that's the case, they may well
develop PR later on so it will do you good to have links from them in
the end.
BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-services.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/baby-gund/index.html
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/jul...et-posters.htm
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"indiecoffeehouse" <nospam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xMxsg.3289$Th7.186 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "mogga" <di (AT) NOSPAMPLEASEmogga (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7s75b2ptq1vdrr6ih2vannheq5ve0n75os (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? Higher quality pages with good PR and few outgoing links are always the best, but living in the real world Anchor Text is paramount. You could get your Anchor Text from sitewides which are good for MSN and Yahoo! but Google is a little more fussy. Anchor text from lots of different IP addresses even if they are PR0 still counts well in Google, just make sure the page the link is on has been seen by Google (cached) and ensure the link is a true HREF- with no sneeky noindex or nofollows. Matt |
BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-services.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/baby-gund/index.html
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/jul...et-posters.htm
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mogga wrote: All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? Don't waste your energy seeking externally to empower your web site. Look internally mogga. Have a little fun too. Hey mogga, let's play the web site promotion strategy game. Ok, pick some keyphrases ... let see ... got some? ... Now let's start by brewing up some Keyphrase Title Soup. Let's grab handfulls of that and that and squash them together. Holy shit that looks good eh. Now, form a web site skeleton together mogga. Build your skeleton with the soup stuff. Start playing with some meat. Squish that meat between your fingers. We need some muscles mogga! Write Mogga! Write good content about your stuff. Good writings, describing your stuff. Throw some of it here and there, what the hell, make a real stinking mess of it in the corner over there, that's Ok, If you want it afetr you can sweep it under the rug. One over there too and Pictures too. My god put some pictures in there, you have to put on some skin and dress up when you offer the web site out to the world. Play the Keyphrase Anchors Congruency game along the way and develop your own credibility and authenticity. Stand alone mogga! Stand firm and go challenge the World! Have fun .... note to myself : probably a good time for a doobie break |
BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-services.htm
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/baby-gund/index.html
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/jul...et-posters.htm
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:52:22 GMT, "Matt" <mj.paines (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote: "indiecoffeehouse" <nospam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xMxsg.3289$Th7.186 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "mogga" <di (AT) NOSPAMPLEASEmogga (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7s75b2ptq1vdrr6ih2vannheq5ve0n75os (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? Higher quality pages with good PR and few outgoing links are always the best, but living in the real world Anchor Text is paramount. You could get your Anchor Text from sitewides which are good for MSN and Yahoo! but is a little more fussy. Anchor text from lots of different IP addresses even if they are PR0 still counts well in Google, just make sure the page the link is on has been seen by Google (cached) and ensure the link is a true HREF- with no sneeky noindex or nofollows. Matt Er-um. I suppose Matt could have a point here. Anyone? BB -- |
from Matt Cutts and team they are aware of the fact that we know this, and
are building filters to isolate over use of any one technique. So mix your
anchor text, spread them across directories, buy and trade links else where
in your community and syndicate news worthy content for those good quality
links.
Matt
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:52:22 GMT, "Matt" <mj.paines (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote: "indiecoffeehouse" <nospam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xMxsg.3289$Th7.186 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "mogga" <di (AT) NOSPAMPLEASEmogga (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7s75b2ptq1vdrr6ih2vannheq5ve0n75os (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? Higher quality pages with good PR and few outgoing links are always the best, but living in the real world Anchor Text is paramount. You could get your Anchor Text from sitewides which are good for MSN and Yahoo! but Google is a little more fussy. Anchor text from lots of different IP addresses even if they are PR0 still counts well in Google, just make sure the page the link is on has been seen by Google (cached) and ensure the link is a true HREF- with no sneeky noindex or nofollows. Matt Er-um. I suppose Matt could have a point here. Anyone? |
drain high PR web pages of their PR Value, then they are going to be
sadly disappointed with the results of their quest. Unless that high PR
web page is of extreme relevance to yours, the results will most likely
be negligible. The days of artificially increasing importance by PR
Value linking are over.
As a matter of fact, SEO has little to do with PR anymore at all. PR is
but an indicator. a 0/10 PR page can beat a 6/10 PR page competiting
for the same keyphrase. One PR0 link can prove to be a better choice
than 10 PR6 ones grabbed on the fly.
A person needs to really consider where and how links are developed.
There is much more to it than simple PR value factored in with type of
link structures and frequency of anchors. Where's any consideration
towards the linking page's content relevance? Any though given to how
this link benefits the Internet visitor? Isn't that why a link is
there, to facilitate a future click by one of your visitors? A click
outside to another web site. Who else is on that link page refering to
you? What words are they using to describe your web page? What exactly
are they all about anyway? Do you know this web site from a personal
Internet visiting experience or did you buy the 20,000 directories list
for $19.99... and what of keyphrase congruency, seriously folks. Spend
a little more time thinking over why you are linking to a web page and
why that page is linking to you?
Find out for yourself what are these web pages that want to link to you
all about? Where do they frequent? Who says what about who? Do you
really want to go into that pile of links?
Build quality content instead. Don't waste your time looking outside
for help.
"Anchor links are word of mouth messengers going back and forth, around
web pages, through web sites; spilling both dirty and clean laundry
from baskets of content along the way, down the forking road, through
the dense boreal forests, a lengthy traverse over a treacherous ravine,
over the black bear owned blueberry hill and eventually reflect back to
the SERPs."
--
Fred
http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b...ongruency.html
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Big Bill wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:52:22 GMT, "Matt" <mj.paines (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote: "indiecoffeehouse" <nospam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xMxsg.3289$Th7.186 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. "mogga" <di (AT) NOSPAMPLEASEmogga (DOT) com> wrote in message news:7s75b2ptq1vdrr6ih2vannheq5ve0n75os (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... All the time I hear people saying you should get links from directories as these will help your site in google. I've got a huge list of directories I could submit to and many of these are zero PR. Is it worth getting links from these? Or should I look for other factors too - and if so what are these factors? Is it really a case of all links are good? Or all non recip links are good? Higher quality pages with good PR and few outgoing links are always the best, but living in the real world Anchor Text is paramount. You could get your Anchor Text from sitewides which are good for MSN and Yahoo! but is a little more fussy. Anchor text from lots of different IP addresses even if they are PR0 still counts well in Google, just make sure the page the link is on has been seen by Google (cached) and ensure the link is a true HREF- with no sneeky noindex or nofollows. Matt Er-um. I suppose Matt could have a point here. Anyone? If someone is trying to empower a web site externally by seeking to drain high PR web pages of their PR Value, then they are going to be sadly disappointed with the results of their quest. Unless that high PR web page is of extreme relevance to yours, the results will most likely be negligible. The days of artificially increasing importance by PR Value linking are over. As a matter of fact, SEO has little to do with PR anymore at all. PR is but an indicator. a 0/10 PR page can beat a 6/10 PR page competiting for the same keyphrase. One PR0 link can prove to be a better choice than 10 PR6 ones grabbed on the fly. A person needs to really consider where and how links are developed. There is much more to it than simple PR value factored in with type of link structures and frequency of anchors. Where's any consideration towards the linking page's content relevance? Any though given to how this link benefits the Internet visitor? Isn't that why a link is there, to facilitate a future click by one of your visitors? A click outside to another web site. Who else is on that link page refering to you? What words are they using to describe your web page? What exactly are they all about anyway? Do you know this web site from a personal Internet visiting experience or did you buy the 20,000 directories list for $19.99... and what of keyphrase congruency, seriously folks. Spend a little more time thinking over why you are linking to a web page and why that page is linking to you? Find out for yourself what are these web pages that want to link to you all about? Where do they frequent? Who says what about who? Do you really want to go into that pile of links? Build quality content instead. Don't waste your time looking outside for help. "Anchor links are word of mouth messengers going back and forth, around web pages, through web sites; spilling both dirty and clean laundry from baskets of content along the way, down the forking road, through the dense boreal forests, a lengthy traverse over a treacherous ravine, over the black bear owned blueberry hill and eventually reflect back to the SERPs." -- Fred http://canadian-web-site-promotion.b...ongruency.html |
to hear. The trouble with White Hat is takes too long, and in this world of
idiot would be SEO's promising top positions with no intension of
delivering, we are all under the magnifier to produce results in limited
time. Black Hat is always worth avoiding if your URL is important to you, so
Pale Grey Hat is often the only way.
Building a mix of good quality links through online PR, syndication and
networking in related themes is the long term answer, but short term results
need to be considered as long as you are not too many shades away from
White.
Matt
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