Link Building advice

I'm looking to build some inbound links to a few sites and have been
advised to look into buying text links. the problem is that this advice
didn't come with any recomendations for where to buy these links without
getting ripped off or connected to some kind of linkfarm or link
spamming stituation.

I would be happy to look for relevant sites and email webmasters asking
for a link (even offering to pay 'em for their time and trouble), yet
I've read plenty in forums and Usenet to know that such emails are
deleted unread by most webmasters.

Given that, what do you more experienced people do to grow inbound links
from relevant (or at least semi-relevant) sites that have PR3 or 4
reasonably quickly without having to spend much money.

(yah, I asked this elsewhere also, but I'm trying to get as much input
as I can)

Joe Fox <ny152 (AT) none (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Given that, what do you more experienced people do to grow inbound links
from relevant (or at least semi-relevant) sites that have PR3 or 4
reasonably quickly without having to spend much money.

1) Write good content (which can be as little as one good ontopic
article, but most need about 1 article/week)
2) add an RSS feed to your site
3) ping your site [1]

(yah, I asked this elsewhere also, but I'm trying to get as much input
as I can)

In that case it's (or was) common to post a summary here, later, if
anything useful comes out of it.


[1] http://johnbokma.com/perl/ping-blog-via-xml-rpc.html - it sounds like
you need a blog, but it works for any site with an RSS feed.

--
John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"Joe Fox" <ny152 (AT) none (DOT) invalid> wrote

I'm looking to build some inbound links to a few sites and have been
advised to look into buying text links. the problem is that this advice
didn't come with any recomendations for where to buy these links without
getting ripped off or connected to some kind of linkfarm or link
spamming stituation.

I would be happy to look for relevant sites and email webmasters asking
for a link (even offering to pay 'em for their time and trouble), yet
I've read plenty in forums and Usenet to know that such emails are
deleted unread by most webmasters.

Given that, what do you more experienced people do to grow inbound links
from relevant (or at least semi-relevant) sites that have PR3 or 4
reasonably quickly without having to spend much money.

(yah, I asked this elsewhere also, but I'm trying to get as much input
as I can)

If you find a rellevant site with good information on
it and one which may be useful for your visitors, set up
a link to it and also include a little bit of information about
the products or services they provide.

Once or twice a week click on the link and have a look
at 4 or 5 of their pages, after 4 or 5 months send them an
email using your URL as the title of the email.

Chances are they will have seen your site in their stats,
would have visited your site and will have seen your link
back to them.
When they see your URL in the title of the email you will
have more chance of them not simply deleting it.

--
T.J.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Chances are they will have seen your site in their stats,
would have visited your site and will have seen your link
back to them.
When they see your URL in the title of the email you will
have more chance of them not simply deleting it.

Or they have contacted your hosting provider for referer spam. (Which is
something I do now and then).

--
John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Chances are they will have seen your site in their stats,
would have visited your site and will have seen your link
back to them.
When they see your URL in the title of the email you will
have more chance of them not simply deleting it.

Or they have contacted your hosting provider for referer spam. (Which is
something I do now and then).

Yep, I get a lot of annoying referrer spam.

Stacey
--
Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Chances are they will have seen your site in their stats,
would have visited your site and will have seen your link
back to them.
When they see your URL in the title of the email you will
have more chance of them not simply deleting it.

Or they have contacted your hosting provider for referer spam. (Which is
something I do now and then).

There is a big difference between referer spam
and linking back from a legitimate and related website.
Are you saying we should never link out to sites
related to ours?

--
T.J.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

There is a big difference between referer spam
and linking back from a legitimate and related website.
Are you saying we should never link out to sites
related to ours?

I say we never should click on links we have made to someone else's site
to give the impression that genuine traffic is flowing to that site, or to
"ping" their stats, so they see that you've made a link.

What you suggested sounds to me like manual referer spam. And people get
soon tired of manual, and come up with a scripted solution....

--
John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

There is a big difference between referer spam
and linking back from a legitimate and related website.
Are you saying we should never link out to sites
related to ours?

I say we never should click on links we have made to someone else's site
to give the impression that genuine traffic is flowing to that site, or to
"ping" their stats, so they see that you've made a link.

What you suggested sounds to me like manual referer spam. And people get
soon tired of manual, and come up with a scripted solution....

If they get tired of doing it manualy and revert
to scripts it defeats the whole object.

Thje principal behind it is that you make webmasters
of the similar websites aware of you in an attempt to
build up a relationship.

This isn't a quick fix shortcut way of doing things and shouldn't
be treated that way.

I like to click on outbound links periodically just to make
sure everything is still as it should be with the sites I'm linking
to, and this is effectively a way of killing 2 birds with one stone.

Even if they never do link back I leave the links up if they
are useful to my visitors.

--
T.J.
http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message

What you suggested sounds to me like manual referer spam. And people
get soon tired of manual, and come up with a scripted solution....

Thje principal behind it is that you make webmasters
of the similar websites aware of you in an attempt to
build up a relationship.

And a nice relationship it is: a webmaster putting a link on his/her site,
and manually clicking on it once or twice a week to get attention....

--
John Bokma http://johnbokma.com/

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote:

"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote in message

What you suggested sounds to me like manual referer spam. And people
get soon tired of manual, and come up with a scripted solution....


Thje principal behind it is that you make webmasters
of the similar websites aware of you in an attempt to
build up a relationship.

And a nice relationship it is: a webmaster putting a link on his/her site,
and manually clicking on it once or twice a week to get attention....

I give up, goodbye