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Default KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 12:17 AM






KinderStart.com is listed in yahoo.com but not Google.

I thought that was an interesting story, probably all the SEO bunch
know about it, but I just saw it. It proves anyway that Google can
delist and Yahoo! can keep the same site. I read in one newsgroup that
hundreds or thousands of sites are delisted everyday. How many lives
are destroyed because of delisting? Especially as now Google is even
banning paid ads for certain keywords, eg Grohe in order to price fix
(stop price comparisons), the issue of information control is even more
important.

I would foresee this whole thing about search orders being legally
handled, eg by new laws, as so many small businesses now depend on web
business, and Google is playing with people's lives. The governments of
the West have been keen to regulate the Internet for years - mainly for
taxes!

I know a lot of people who depend on web business, and therefore their
employee benefits, mortgage repayments, loan repayments, school fees,
all depend on the web and Google has a definite say in what goes on.
That will make the regulators interested.

http://www.theregister.com/2006/07/0..._page_ranking/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization


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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 06:58 AM






On 4 Nov 2006 21:17:11 -0800, "Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
KinderStart.com is listed in yahoo.com but not Google.

I thought that was an interesting story, probably all the SEO bunch
know about it, but I just saw it. It proves anyway that Google can
delist and Yahoo! can keep the same site. I read in one newsgroup that
hundreds or thousands of sites are delisted everyday. How many lives
are destroyed because of delisting? Especially as now Google is even
banning paid ads for certain keywords, eg Grohe in order to price fix
(stop price comparisons), the issue of information control is even more
important.

I would foresee this whole thing about search orders being legally
handled, eg by new laws, as so many small businesses now depend on web
business, and Google is playing with people's lives. The governments of
the West have been keen to regulate the Internet for years - mainly for
taxes!

I know a lot of people who depend on web business, and therefore their
employee benefits, mortgage repayments, loan repayments, school fees,
all depend on the web and Google has a definite say in what goes on.
This is all very old news, you know, all been gone over long ago.

BB


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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 07:10 AM




Big Bill wrote:
Quote:
On 4 Nov 2006 21:17:11 -0800, "Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote:

KinderStart.com is listed in yahoo.com but not Google.

I thought that was an interesting story, probably all the SEO bunch
know about it, but I just saw it. It proves anyway that Google can
delist and Yahoo! can keep the same site. I read in one newsgroup that
hundreds or thousands of sites are delisted everyday. How many lives
are destroyed because of delisting? Especially as now Google is even
banning paid ads for certain keywords, eg Grohe in order to price fix
(stop price comparisons), the issue of information control is even more
important.

I would foresee this whole thing about search orders being legally
handled, eg by new laws, as so many small businesses now depend on web
business, and Google is playing with people's lives. The governments of
the West have been keen to regulate the Internet for years - mainly for
taxes!

I know a lot of people who depend on web business, and therefore their
employee benefits, mortgage repayments, loan repayments, school fees,
all depend on the web and Google has a definite say in what goes on.

This is all very old news, you know, all been gone over long ago.
So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?

It is interesting that the criteria is so different. I guess all that
is old news.

Google is in court a lot these days and that is not old news. It has
mounting law suits from countless quarters. I think the price fixing
issue could soon also land on Google's doorstep.

Someone here said the term "price fixing" was not clear and I should
communicate better. Maybe, some people need to read better.

I have included a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing

Obviously, that person had never seen the term, which is surprising for
someone paid to give advice about marketing.
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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 08:02 AM



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So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?
Yup. It's so old news that Moses probably knew it.



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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 08:11 AM



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KinderStart.com is listed in yahoo.com but not Google.
Actually, Google has about 95,300 pages listed for that domain:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

None of them, however, are worth very much and Google's results
presentation algorithm quite rightly (IMO) discounts them.

There's nothing indexable on the home page, and every page I tried off
that was essentially null.



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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 08:16 AM



On 5 Nov 2006 04:10:41 -0800, "Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote:

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Big Bill wrote:
On 4 Nov 2006 21:17:11 -0800, "Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote:

KinderStart.com is listed in yahoo.com but not Google.

I thought that was an interesting story, probably all the SEO bunch
know about it, but I just saw it. It proves anyway that Google can
delist and Yahoo! can keep the same site. I read in one newsgroup that
hundreds or thousands of sites are delisted everyday. How many lives
are destroyed because of delisting? Especially as now Google is even
banning paid ads for certain keywords, eg Grohe in order to price fix
(stop price comparisons), the issue of information control is even more
important.

I would foresee this whole thing about search orders being legally
handled, eg by new laws, as so many small businesses now depend on web
business, and Google is playing with people's lives. The governments of
the West have been keen to regulate the Internet for years - mainly for
taxes!

I know a lot of people who depend on web business, and therefore their
employee benefits, mortgage repayments, loan repayments, school fees,
all depend on the web and Google has a definite say in what goes on.

This is all very old news, you know, all been gone over long ago.

So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?
The whole idea of Googler having an authority that's frightening.

Quote:
It is interesting that the criteria is so different. I guess all that
is old news.

Google is in court a lot these days and that is not old news.
It gets more attention now, that's why.

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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 09:22 AM



On 5 Nov 2006 04:10:41 -0800, "Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I know a lot of people who depend on web business, and therefore their
employee benefits, mortgage repayments, loan repayments, school fees,
all depend on the web and Google has a definite say in what goes on.

This is all very old news, you know, all been gone over long ago.

So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?
Yes, I've had several sites banned in Google due to testing
boundaries, Yahoo so far has not banned one of my test sites!! No idea
what you have to do to get banned by Yahoo!

Has anyone got a banned Yahoo site, what did you do?

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It is interesting that the criteria is so different. I guess all that
is old news.
Different algos, different companies.

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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 10:24 AM



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Has anyone got a banned Yahoo site, what did you do?
Never seen one. Tried carnal relations with an underaged son of one of
the VPs? Live on a webcam? Might work.

Yahoo is immensely valuable to me - their link: search results really
help me manage sites.

I have a site that has #3 position for its keywords on Google. But -
last week - 28% of its traffic came from Yahoo.



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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 12:41 PM




Phil Payne wrote:
Quote:
So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?

Yup. It's so old news that Moses probably knew it.
I do not like abuses of religious terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy



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Default Re: KinderStart.com - delisted - suing Google - 11-05-2006 , 04:31 PM



"Logician" <sales (AT) logicians (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Phil Payne wrote:
So it is old news that Google will delist and Yahoo! will not delist
the same site?

Yup. It's so old news that Moses probably knew it.
I do not like abuses of religious terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy

Dude,

You obviously do not know what Blasphemy is and possible did not read the
article you posted the address to. Moses is in no way God and Phil in no way
defamed God and his name. I think you need to get a life seriously!

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