keyword confusion

Hello Group - I'm new to the webmaster world. I have a background in
print advertising and some coding skills. My goal is to generate
revenue via Google Adsense or some other ad business option. I'm
confused about "keywords". I've read moderately on the subject, but
like everything else, there's no good starting place. I have a few
specific questions. Any response is appreciated.

1) Are keywords included in the copy of a page? (I know they're not
"meta tag keywords" since search engines tend to ignore those today).

2) Are they really the holy grail?

3) Should I purchase one of the hundreds of keyword databases from the
web, and if so which ones are good?

4) Is there somewhere I can read up on the subject so I'll have a clue
what I'm dealing with?

Thanks all ...

On 31 Jan 2006 12:28:08 -0800, "rob" <rbnjns (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Group - I'm new to the webmaster world. I have a background in
print advertising and some coding skills. My goal is to generate
revenue via Google Adsense or some other ad business option. I'm
confused about "keywords". I've read moderately on the subject, but
like everything else, there's no good starting place. I have a few
specific questions. Any response is appreciated.

1) Are keywords included in the copy of a page? (I know they're not
"meta tag keywords" since search engines tend to ignore those today).

2) Are they really the holy grail?

3) Should I purchase one of the hundreds of keyword databases from the
web, and if so which ones are good?

4) Is there somewhere I can read up on the subject so I'll have a clue
what I'm dealing with?

Thanks all ...

Do a search for Joel Comm.

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"rob" <rbnjns (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Hello Group - I'm new to the webmaster world. I have a background in
print advertising and some coding skills. My goal is to generate
revenue via Google Adsense or some other ad business option. I'm
confused about "keywords". I've read moderately on the subject, but
like everything else, there's no good starting place. I have a few
specific questions. Any response is appreciated.

1) Are keywords included in the copy of a page? (I know they're not
"meta tag keywords" since search engines tend to ignore those today).

2) Are they really the holy grail?

3) Should I purchase one of the hundreds of keyword databases from the
web, and if so which ones are good?

4) Is there somewhere I can read up on the subject so I'll have a clue
what I'm dealing with?

Thanks all ...

Just an idea ....

Write down everything you know about Print Advertising, including your
personal history, the jokes, the anecdotes, the technology, the companies
involved, the successes, the failures, what happened when etc etc. Write it
all in your own words and make it really interesting, informative, funny
etc. Assemble it all together as a 50 to 100 page text only web site. The
"added information value" of your web site needs to be very high. Avoid
copying anything that already exists. Link the pages together carefully
and logically, and only as needed. Link to other top quality websites that
your visitors will like to go to where you don't know the answer. Add some
original, well described, pictures. I hope your content really pleases and
satisfies many search visitors. Your search rankings will rise over the
next year or two. Then add a few adverts. If the adverts pay for your
time and hosting charges, well done.

Best regards, Eric.

In article <1138739288.217428.69400 (AT) o13g2000cwo (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"rob" <rbnjns (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Group - I'm new to the webmaster world. I have a background in
print advertising and some coding skills. My goal is to generate
revenue via Google Adsense or some other ad business option. I'm
confused about "keywords". I've read moderately on the subject, but
like everything else, there's no good starting place. I have a few
specific questions. Any response is appreciated.

These may be of help to start if you haven't read them:
<http://www.google.com/webmasters/>
<https://www.google.com/adsense/>

leo

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"Eric Johnston" <nospam (AT) redyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Just an idea ....

Write down everything you know about Print Advertising, including your
personal history, the jokes, the anecdotes, the technology, the
companies involved, the successes, the failures, what happened when
etc etc. Write it all in your own words and make it really
interesting, informative, funny etc.

Excellent idea.

I recommend people to buy a big, big piece of paper, and start to write
down words. Next cluster them into relations, and then continue with:

Assemble it all together as a 50
to 100 page text only web site. The "added information value" of your
web site needs to be very high. Avoid copying anything that already
exists. Link the pages together carefully and logically, and only as
needed. Link to other top quality websites that your visitors will
like to go to where you don't know the answer. Add some original,
well described, pictures. I hope your content really pleases and
satisfies many search visitors. Your search rankings will rise over
the next year or two. Then add a few adverts. If the adverts pay
for your time and hosting charges, well done.

Yup, very sound advice. Problem is that most people consider it way too
much work, and hence they:

- look at related sites
- search for similar free content
- copy & paste
- and expect to have a PR of 8 overnight

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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

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- look at related sites
- search for similar free content
- copy & paste
- and expect to have a PR of 8 overnight

Yeah, and not only that they want 3000 visitors after a week of being live!
Takes a good amount of time. Which is why I like my main site as it is and
not think like some that it is disposable. Shoot I have invested to much
time into it!

Stacey

"Stacey" <Remove-the-Y-stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

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- look at related sites
- search for similar free content
- copy & paste
- and expect to have a PR of 8 overnight

Yeah, and not only that they want 3000 visitors after a week of being
live! Takes a good amount of time. Which is why I like my main site as
it is and not think like some that it is disposable. Shoot I have
invested to much time into it!

That's probably why you make money with it :-D

I have an ex-customer/friend with about 10 sites with an average PR of 4
(some have even 5, others 3). He thinks that just "throwing" some content
on it is going to work miracles.

I asked him long time ago: if that really did work, why do you think I am
not just doing that? :-D.

I do know that some people do it, and are doing it right. But I don't have
the idea I can do it as easy, so I really doubt his attempts :-D.

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Eric,

Since I have no idea how to do what I hope to do (imagine that), I'll
focus on content and inbound links for a year. Maybe this time next
year I'll think about biting off the big ole piece that is Adsense.

Many thanks,

Rob

Stacey - I'll pray for patience. And some luck wouldn't hurt. Thanks ...

"rob" <rbnjns (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Stacey -

If you quote, no need to address people. Learn to quote, see:
http://groups.google.com/support/bin...y?answer=14213

Many thanks,

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