Interesting take on dupe penalties

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

BB


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Big Bill wrote:

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

BB

Iv never belived in Dupe Content at all to be honest. Due to that fact
that massive amounts of dupe content is legit.

What about all the guitar shop sites I look at with the same information
on them as they are just using the official product descriptions nicked
from the Fender site or what ever.

Or people using Public domain articles etc

James

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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:20:54 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

Hey there BB, long time no see.

Just to throw in my own 2 cents.

I'll often post press releases, sometimes altered and sometimes not. Well,
there have been times when I felt as if I'd gotten the better end of the
deal. 'though not often.

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:35:13 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
<Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:20:54 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

Hey there BB, long time no see.

Jeez, where you been, dead?

Just to throw in my own 2 cents.

I'll often post press releases, sometimes altered and sometimes not. Well,
there have been times when I felt as if I'd gotten the better end of the
deal. 'though not often.

Since I'm totally in the Google dumpster now I might as well do what I
want, I think.

BB
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kruse (AT) crystal-liaison (DOT) com Gifty! Shiny! BB!

James Helliwell wrote:

Big Bill wrote:

Iv never belived in Dupe Content at all to be honest. Due to that fact
that massive amounts of dupe content is legit.

What about all the guitar shop sites I look at with the same information
on them as they are just using the official product descriptions nicked
from the Fender site or what ever.

Or people using Public domain articles etc

Or RFCs. There are hundreds of identical copies when you search for
one of them.

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:16:34 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:35:13 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:20:54 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

Hey there BB, long time no see.

Jeez, where you been, dead?\

Oh, around.

I'll often post press releases, sometimes altered and sometimes not. Well,
there have been times when I felt as if I'd gotten the better end of the
deal. 'though not often.

Since I'm totally in the Google dumpster now I might as well do what I
want, I think.

Yup, I know the feeling. I think that fella said it best, "...decided that
it really doesn¢t matter. Not because it doesn¢t matter, but because it¢s
nearly impossible to keep on top of the changes and still do anything."

BTW, Happy Bourbon! (1 year anniversary comin' up) ;-)

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:35:04 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
<Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:16:34 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:35:13 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:20:54 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

http://www.pandia.com/sew/169-duplic....html#more-169

Hey there BB, long time no see.

Jeez, where you been, dead?\

Oh, around.

I'll often post press releases, sometimes altered and sometimes not. Well,
there have been times when I felt as if I'd gotten the better end of the
deal. 'though not often.

Since I'm totally in the Google dumpster now I might as well do what I
want, I think.

Yup, I know the feeling. I think that fella said it best, "...decided that
it really doesn¢t matter. Not because it doesn¢t matter, but because it¢s
nearly impossible to keep on top of the changes and still do anything."

BTW, Happy Bourbon! (1 year anniversary comin' up) ;-)

I was fine with Bourbon. Oh, the algo! I was ok with that, too,
actually. Jagger 3 was my undoing. Google results are still flailing
around all over the place so I may well surface again eventually.

BB
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http://www.crystal-liaison.com/harmo...dom/index.html
kruse (AT) crystal-liaison (DOT) com Gifty! Shiny! BB!

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:42:23 GMT, Big Bill wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:35:04 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote:

[...]

BTW, Happy Bourbon! (1 year anniversary comin' up) ;-)

I was fine with Bourbon. Oh, the algo! I was ok with that, too,
actually. Jagger 3 was my undoing. Google results are still flailing
around all over the place so I may well surface again eventually.

BB

Hey, you never know.
Best of luck pal.

"James Helliwell" wrote...

Iv never belived in Dupe Content at all to be honest. Due to that fact
that massive amounts of dupe content is legit.
What about all the guitar shop sites I look at with the same information
on them as they are just using the official product descriptions nicked
from the Fender site or what ever.
Or people using Public domain articles etc

It was never a penalty in the way that SEs spam got; what can happen is that
many duplicates get reduced to "supplementary results" - the serps are
littered with them.

It would virtually never apply in cases like product descriptions - the
proportion of the page that's duplicated is very, very small.

With articles on serious content sites, it is an issue - and it certainly
happens when the whole page worth of code is stolen.

With spam publishing sites - the crap that publishes millions of 500 word
self-promo "articles", the duplicate content filter is not even tickled;
there's so much crud, code bloat and other promos on the page that the
"article" is, again, too small a proportion of the page to matter to SEs (or
anyone with an IQ greater than 3).

Worth noting that most of those pages are PR=0, and probably have zero link
value, but that's another story.

Duplicate page damage is usually WITHIN a site; template pages with small
amounts of unique content; they are hurt because the crud, code bloat and
other promos are the same for each page, dwarfing the unique code. So Google
thinks (usually correctly) "nothing worth listing here, boyo", just lists
the URL.

Not a penalty; only a problem to the owners of autogenrated pages with
minimal interesting content - and easily sorted.
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