How many days does Google take about updating?

I know some changes are adopted quite quickly...
I am just wondering though... Because I started updating
my website couple of weeks ago with various improvements,
but, alas, it almost (...) looks worse in my already depressive stats log!
:-)

I use titles, meta descriptions, <h></h> for headings,
descriptive content etc. but to no avail! :-(

Typical pages are:
http://www.micro-sys.dk/products/timesage/
http://www.micro-sys.dk/services/uni...use-online.php

Are there any huge faults with above? Should I
just try wait a month and see if Google picks up?


best regards
Thomas Schulz

Big Bill wrote:

"http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for
"http://www.micro-sys.dk/people" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 1)
)'

I don't understand any of that. Not saying it's wrong or anything;
what's it do?

I can reply to that, but uhm, last time that went wrong :-D.

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:12:26 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

meta http-equiv="pics-label" content='(pics-1.1
"http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for
"http://www.micro-sys.dk" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1)
"http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for
"http://www.micro-sys.dk" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0))
"http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for
"http://www.micro-sys.dk/people" r (nz 1 vz 1 lc 1 oz 1 cz 1)
"http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for
"http://www.micro-sys.dk/people" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 1)
)'

I don't understand any of that. Not saying it's wrong or anything;
what's it do?

It's Icra ratings http://www.icra.org/about/ to do with child friendly
sites etc... that filters can use to determine if the site should be
viewable by various age groups.

I use it at http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/ (also SafeSurf below)

<meta http-equiv="pics-label" content='(pics-1.1
"http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for
"http://www.classic-literature.co.uk" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1))'>
<meta http-equiv="PICS-Label" content='(PICS-1.1
"http://www.classify.org/safesurf/" L gen true for
"http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/" r (SS~~000 1))'>

Will neither help nor hurt rankings.

David
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http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/

Will neither help nor hurt rankings.

On your site I've just read about title optimization - it says
changes can take 2-3 months before effects become visible?

So... Even if I see Google has updated title in search results
(and also can find my site if I enter the exact title phrase), it
may not necessarily have taken effect in "deeper" calculations?

I guess I will have to wait and see then :-|


best regards
Thomas Schulz
http://www.micro-sys.dk

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:33:33 +0200, "dk_sz" <dk_sz (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Will neither help nor hurt rankings.

On your site I've just read about title optimization - it says
changes can take 2-3 months before effects become visible?

Actually it can take longer for some things, namely links. I've got
sites I added links to 6+ months ago and since then haven't had the
time to do anything else and the SERPs climb slowly month by month
(most increases after 6 months). In my recent experience (last 18
months) you have to wait at least 6 months (ideally 9 months) for
links to show close to full benefit. Used to be around 3 months.

This is in my experience is also the root cause of the so called
sandbox effect, links aren't fully counted right away and since a new
domain by definition starts with no links, even when you have a fair
amount of links Google treats the domain as having a lot less. Since
Google SERPs is based a LOT on links, a new domain will do badly at
first.

To put this in number terms (arbitrary BTW, so don't take this too
seriously) if a PR5 link was worth 100 points when passing full
benefit, when it's first added you'll see 5 of those points right away
and the rest kicks in many months later.

Seems to be like-

5 right away
5 more a month later
5 more a month later
5 more a month later
10 more a month later
10 more a month later
10 more a month later
15 more a month later
15 more a month later
20 more a month later

Don't take the above too seriously though, just a way to visualize the
concept. Though something like the above would explain what I've seen
this and last year.

If this is how Google treats new links you have to wait at least 6
months for a new link to show significant benefit, but eventually they
do count fully (probably full benefit in under 1 year).

I think Google have done this to thwart the efforts of those
purchasing links. Naive website owners buy a bunch of site wide links
(their first mistake for other reasons) from relatively high PR sites
and expect almost automatic good rankings. Reality is it takes over 6
months for the links to work and by that time the purchaser has come
to the conclusion the links didn't work so moves on to the next idea.
Even if they did learn it takes 6+ months for links to work who is
going to pay for links for 6 months with no financial gains?

So... Even if I see Google has updated title in search results
(and also can find my site if I enter the exact title phrase), it
may not necessarily have taken effect in "deeper" calculations?

Basically yes, though links seem to take longest to count. With a
title I wouldn't assume a change did nothing etc... until at least 3
months in.

I guess I will have to wait and see then :-|

You need the patience of a saint with Google :-))

best regards
Thomas Schulz

David
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http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/

"dk_sz" <dk_sz (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

I know some changes are adopted quite quickly...
I am just wondering though... Because I started updating
my website couple of weeks ago with various improvements,
but, alas, it almost (...) looks worse in my already depressive stats log!
:-)

I use titles, meta descriptions, <h></h> for headings,
descriptive content etc. but to no avail! :-(

Typical pages are:
http://www.micro-sys.dk/products/timesage/
http://www.micro-sys.dk/services/uni...use-online.php

Are there any huge faults with above? Should I
just try wait a month and see if Google picks up?


best regards
Thomas Schulz

Hi Thomas,

Get relevant links to your site. When you get good back links it not
only improves your ranking but also helps in getting spider traffic.
If you have too few links to your site you will not get good spider
traffic. I suspect this is the reason why ur site is not updated by
google.

If you wish to know more abt SEO visit my site
http://www.do-it-yourself-search-eng...timization.com

All the best.

Pramod
http://www.do-it-yourself-search-eng...timization.com