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Default How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-16-2005 , 08:56 PM






I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created over the
last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using "link:" in
Google?

Also... Google mentions all my pages in it's index, but only recognises a
link to the main page on 8 of them. No ommited results.

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Steven



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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-16-2005 , 09:28 PM






On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:56:11 +0800, "Timmermans"
<steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created over the
last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using "link:" in
Google?
Whenever...there's no guarantee they ever will. Google lies. This
isn't me messing about, it's true. They likely aren't being counted
yet and won't be for a while. Don't go getting too many too fast, it
looks artificial because it is and Googs won't like that. How'd you
get them?

Quote:
Also... Google mentions all my pages in it's index, but only recognises a
link to the main page on 8 of them. No ommited results.
When you say it only recognises the link on 8 pages, what do you mean
exactly please?

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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-16-2005 , 09:54 PM



"Timmermans" <steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created
over the last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using
"link:" in Google?
Maybe never. Google shows just a little subset of actual links.

Quote:
Also... Google mentions all my pages in it's index, but only
recognises a link to the main page on 8 of them. No ommited results.
Yup, see above. Use link and linkdomain with search.yahoo.com

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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 02:53 AM




"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:56:11 +0800, "Timmermans"
steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created over
the
last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using "link:" in
Google?

Whenever...there's no guarantee they ever will. Google lies. This
isn't me messing about, it's true. They likely aren't being counted
yet and won't be for a while. Don't go getting too many too fast, it
looks artificial because it is and Googs won't like that. How'd you
get them?
I looked for relevant pages in Google itself, also looking to which pages my
'competition' links... then I mailed I asked for a link... that's why it
took a while to collect these links.

Quote:
Also... Google mentions all my pages in it's index, but only recognises a
link to the main page on 8 of them. No ommited results.

When you say it only recognises the link on 8 pages, what do you mean
exactly please?
If my site has 100 pages, and each page refers to the main page, only 8
pages out of those 100 show up as having a link (internal) to the main page.

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Thanks for your reply.

Steven




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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 02:56 AM



Thanks John,

Wether they show up or not should be irrelevant then. But do these
'invisible' links still add to build credit within Google?

Steven


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"Timmermans" <steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created
over the last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using
"link:" in Google?

Maybe never. Google shows just a little subset of actual links.

Also... Google mentions all my pages in it's index, but only
recognises a link to the main page on 8 of them. No ommited results.

Yup, see above. Use link and linkdomain with search.yahoo.com

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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 03:15 AM



On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:53:48 +0100, Timmermans
<steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
When you say it only recognises the link on 8 pages, what do you mean
exactly please?

If my site has 100 pages, and each page refers to the main page, only 8
pages out of those 100 show up as having a link (internal) to the main
page.
Classic. As John wrote - Google displays only some subset of links.
It probably 'knows' about much more.

Information about number of BLs (back links, also called IBL -
inbound links) reported is updated once per 2 to 7 weeks; last update
was about 3 weeks ago. Nobody but the Google almighty knows when the
next BL update will take place.

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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 06:33 AM



"Timmermans" <steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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Thanks John,

Wether they show up or not should be irrelevant then. But do these
'invisible' links still add to build credit within Google?

Steven

Of course. Just because Google doesn't show them doesn't mean that they are
not counted.

Stacey




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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 06:37 AM



"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:56:11 +0800, "Timmermans"
steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

I have a new site with about 100 pages, and 50odd backlinks created over
the
last three-four weeks... how long before these show up using "link:" in
Google?

Whenever...there's no guarantee they ever will. Google lies. This
isn't me messing about, it's true. They likely aren't being counted
yet and won't be for a while. Don't go getting too many too fast, it
looks artificial because it is and Googs won't like that. How'd you
get them?
<snip>

I don't think 50 links in 3 to 4 weeks will be looked at strangely as that
is about how long it will take to gain them slowly and not buy them. But it
will be a gradual change upward depending on how many links he need to move
up and how those links are with anchor text and all. Plus other factors.
Like did the site become new last month?

Stacey




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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 07:54 AM




"Borek" <borek (AT) parts (DOT) bpp.to.com.remove.pl> wrote

Quote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:53:48 +0100, Timmermans
steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

When you say it only recognises the link on 8 pages, what do you mean
exactly please?

If my site has 100 pages, and each page refers to the main page, only 8
pages out of those 100 show up as having a link (internal) to the main
page.

Classic. As John wrote - Google displays only some subset of links.
It probably 'knows' about much more.

Information about number of BLs (back links, also called IBL -
inbound links) reported is updated once per 2 to 7 weeks; last update
was about 3 weeks ago. Nobody but the Google almighty knows when the
next BL update will take place.
It's a detail, but it helps to know ;-)

Thanks!
Steven




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Default Re: How long for links/backlinks to show up? - 11-17-2005 , 08:08 AM



"Timmermans" <steventimmermans (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks John,

Wether they show up or not should be irrelevant then. But do these
'invisible' links still add to build credit within Google?
Yes.

Google for some reason only shows a subset. In the past there was a time
that only backlinks with a PR of 4 or higher were shown. How it currently
works, I don't know.


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