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Seth Russell
 
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Default How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 03:15 PM






My category pages were of the form
http://speaktomecatalog.com/page/bear.htm . I reprogrammed the website
and now they are of the form
http://speaktomecatalog.com/room.php?tag=bears . I trapped the 404
errors and redirected then to the new URL. Works fine, but its been
over a month and Google still has all the old pages indexed and *none*
of the new ones. How do i get Google to switch from the old URL to the
new URL ?
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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 03:25 PM






Seth Russell wrote:

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My category pages were of the form
http://speaktomecatalog.com/page/bear.htm . I reprogrammed the website
and now they are of the form
http://speaktomecatalog.com/room.php?tag=bears . I trapped the 404
errors and redirected then to the new URL. Works fine, but its been
over a month and Google still has all the old pages indexed and *none*
of the new ones.
Not true:
<http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ensemble+including+her+red+dress+with+ white+stripes%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0>

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How do i get Google to switch from the old URL to the
new URL ?
A mixture of 301s and patience afaik.

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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 03:38 PM



It's hard to sit here patiently watching my visits degrade as every day
goes by. My catagory pages used to have some page rank, now they have
none. I need to be proactive.

What do you mean by a mixture of 301's ... what can i do there?

Thanks for your response.


Seth Russell
http://speaktomecatalog.com


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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 04:06 PM



Seth Russell wrote:

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It's hard to sit here patiently watching my visits degrade as every day
goes by. My catagory pages used to have some page rank, now they have
none. I need to be proactive.

What do you mean by a mixture of 301's ...
I didn't mean a mixture of 301's. The mixture was the 301s with the
patience ;-)

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what can i do there?
You're saying you're not using 301s to redirect to your new pages?
If you're on an Apache server, you can use the .htaccess file to use
301s to redirect your old pages to your new pages. Google will see the
301, which means 'permanent redirect', and after a short while it will
only visit the new pages.

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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 04:34 PM



Thanks, that sounds like the solution

Since I already have a PHP redirect going, Isn't it just as effective
to send the "HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently" header before the
Location: header in my php when i trap the 404 error? Or does the
..htaccess file have advantages ?

Something like:
<?
Header( "HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently" );
Header( "Location: http://new_url" );
?>

Thanks for your help !

Seth Russell


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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 05:13 PM



Seth Russell wrote:
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It's hard to sit here patiently watching my visits degrade as every day
goes by. My catagory pages used to have some page rank, now they have
none. I need to be proactive.

What do you mean by a mixture of 301's ... what can i do there?

Thanks for your response.
You could also create a sitemap using Google's sitemap protocol

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http://www.abcseo.com/


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Tonnie
 
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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 05:18 PM



davidof wrote:
Quote:
Seth Russell wrote:

It's hard to sit here patiently watching my visits degrade as every day
goes by. My catagory pages used to have some page rank, now they have
none. I need to be proactive.

What do you mean by a mixture of 301's ... what can i do there?

Thanks for your response.


You could also create a sitemap using Google's sitemap protocol
That sitemap might never be used.

A 301 is the best way to do it.



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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 05:22 PM



"Seth Russell" <russell.seth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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Thanks, that sounds like the solution

Since I already have a PHP redirect going, Isn't it just as effective
to send the "HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently" header before the
Location: header in my php when i trap the 404 error? Or does the
.htaccess file have advantages ?
Faster & less overhead. Currently you get a 404, then fire up PHP, and then
return a header.

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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 05:26 PM



I intend to make a site map. What should the file name be ?

http://speaktomecatalog.com/sitemap.gz ?

Incidentally started outputting the 301 headers and that seems to be
working ... need to wait to tomorrow and see if google is picking it
up.

Do you think I will get more bang for my buck with a RSS feed too ?

Any help and suggestions are greatly appreciated. Even virgin
sacrifices, if necessary

Seth Russell
http://speaktomecatalog.com


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Default Re: How to change URLs at google ? - 07-08-2005 , 05:32 PM



Dennis wrote:

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How do i get Google to switch from the old URL to the
new URL ?

A mixture of 301s and patience afaik.

So when did google stop requiring virgin sacrifices?
When the virgins ran out...

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