Google ran out of capacity?

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

titled "Google CEO admits, "We have a huge machine crisis ", a sort of a
hardware-inclined angle at Google's recent indexing problems. I know some
people in this group would say: “what indexing problems?”, but I have no
doubt they are struggling right now.
Check it out. Interesting read. I personally agree with people saying:
"need more space? get rid of the supplemental cache!". There's more to
it, obviously, - you'll see when you get there.

I hope it's accessible without login - my browser logs me in by itself, so
I wouldn't know.


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www.1-script.com wrote:

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm
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I hope it's accessible without login

No, it's not. :-(

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I hope it's accessible without login

No, it's not. :-(

Well, you don't have to become a paid full member (or "supporter" how they
call it). You can register for free and read that and plenty other
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www.1-script.com wrote:

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

titled "Google CEO admits, "We have a huge machine crisis ", a sort of a
hardware-inclined angle at Google's recent indexing problems. I know some
people in this group would say: “what indexing problems?”, but I have no
doubt they are struggling right now.
Check it out. Interesting read. I personally agree with people saying:
"need more space? get rid of the supplemental cache!". There's more to
it, obviously, - you'll see when you get there.

I hope it's accessible without login - my browser logs me in by itself, so
I wouldn't know.

Why should Google ran out of memory while the storage and capacity of
data is getting more easier and cheaper?

The whole story is based on an attempt to explain what is happening.
But is nothing more than a "maybe that happend".

Truth is they f.cked up with their latest update, that had to be an
attempt to get a grip on the exploding traffic. Hence their solution to
build a cache in wich not only the 'googlebot' is delivering what was
found on a site, also the visit of Mediapartners and a special blog-bot
are delivering their data into that cache.

Something went terribly wrong in archiving and evaluating that information.

Next to that, you could have noticed that your site 'in the new
structure' (not every site is in that structure!) is visited only from 1
IP instead of visits from different datacentra in the 'old situation'.

This and the earlier mentioned cache problems are creating a huge crisis
at Google.

Just my 2cents and verry humble opinion!

I have writen an article about that, unfortunatly it, for the moment, is
only available in Dutch!

http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/zoe...structuur.html



Tonnie

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On Thu, 04 May 2006 19:03:57 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_com (AT) foo (DOT) com
(www.1-script.com) wrote:

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

titled "Google CEO admits, "We have a huge machine crisis ",

Did he say it in a "This just in..." kind of way? Because, like, We
Knew Already!!

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__/ [ tonnie ] on Thursday 04 May 2006 21:56 \__

www.1-script.com wrote:
Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

titled "Google CEO admits, "We have a huge machine crisis ", a sort of a
hardware-inclined angle at Google's recent indexing problems. I know some
people in this group would say: ?what indexing problems??, but I have no
doubt they are struggling right now.

In terms of crawling, the last time I checked they were only *third* in that
trail which involves Inktomi/Yahoo Slurp and MSN(Bot). The crawling capacity
did not appear to come down. It is the rivals that began crawling like
crazy. Knowing that it's *hardware* in question, could it be that the
world's bandwidth capacity is being exploited and essentially 'stolen' by
some of Google's competitors?

Check it out. Interesting read. I personally agree with people saying:
"need more space? get rid of the supplemental cache!". There's more to
it, obviously, - you'll see when you get there.

I hope it's accessible without login - my browser logs me in by itself, so
I wouldn't know.

Why should Google ran out of memory while the storage and capacity of
data is getting more easier and cheaper?

Pages get more complex, algorithms get more sophisticated, and the extent of
the Web grows exponentially.

The whole story is based on an attempt to explain what is happening.
But is nothing more than a "maybe that happend".

Truth is they f.cked up with their latest update, that had to be an
attempt to get a grip on the exploding traffic. Hence their solution to
build a cache in wich not only the 'googlebot' is delivering what was
found on a site, also the visit of Mediapartners and a special blog-bot
are delivering their data into that cache.

Something went terribly wrong in archiving and evaluating that information.

Next to that, you could have noticed that your site 'in the new
structure' (not every site is in that structure!) is visited only from 1
IP instead of visits from different datacentra in the 'old situation'.

This and the earlier mentioned cache problems are creating a huge crisis
at Google.

Just my 2cents and verry humble opinion!

Intersting opinion, Tonnie.

I have writen an article about that, unfortunatly it, for the moment, is
only available in Dutch!


http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/zoe...structuur.html

I was going to use Google for translation (simply because of that American
flag among their icons in GoogleBar), but they do no Dutch.

Use Babelfish instead...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

No direct address because they use temporary URL's and embed all in a
frameset.

Many thanks,

Roy

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__/ [ www.1-script.com ] on Thursday 04 May 2006 20:37 \__

Per-Erik Skramstad wrote:

I hope it's accessible without login

No, it's not. :-(


Well, you don't have to become a paid full member (or "supporter" how they
call it). You can register for free and read that and plenty other
interesting articles. Highly recommended.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05...igdaddy_chaos/

Full-up Google choking on web spam?

,----[ Quote ]

Webmasters have been seething at Google since it introduced its
'Big Daddy' update in January, the biggest revision to the way its
search engine operates for years.

Alarm usually accompanies changes to Google's algorithms, as the new
rankings can cause websites to be demoted, or disappear entirely. But
four months on from the introduction of "Big Daddy," it's clear that
the problem is more serious than any previous revision - and it's
getting worse.

Webmasters now report sites not being crawled for weeks, with Google
SERPS (search engine results pages) returning old pages, and failing
to return results for phrases that used to bear fruitful results.
`----

Hope this helpsm someone...

__/ [ Roy Schestowitz ] on Friday 05 May 2006 04:21 \__

__/ [ www.1-script.com ] on Thursday 04 May 2006 20:37 \__

Per-Erik Skramstad wrote:

I hope it's accessible without login

No, it's not. :-(


Well, you don't have to become a paid full member (or "supporter" how they
call it). You can register for free and read that and plenty other
interesting articles. Highly recommended.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05...igdaddy_chaos/

Full-up Google choking on web spam?

,----[ Quote ]
| Webmasters have been seething at Google since it introduced its
| 'Big Daddy' update in January, the biggest revision to the way its
| search engine operates for years.
|
| Alarm usually accompanies changes to Google's algorithms, as the new
| rankings can cause websites to be demoted, or disappear entirely. But
| four months on from the introduction of "Big Daddy," it's clear that
| the problem is more serious than any previous revision - and it's
| getting worse.
|
| Webmasters now report sites not being crawled for weeks, with Google
| SERPS (search engine results pages) returning old pages, and failing
| to return results for phrases that used to bear fruitful results.
`----

Hope this helps someone...

Corrigenda/addenda:

It all turned out to be total BS, as of several hours ago:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/...try=3324214398

Orlowski mis-reports it again

,----[ Quote ]

You have to wonder about any publication that employs a fact challenged
guy like Andrew Orlowski. Have a look at the latest article he has,
which made it to Digg today. In a discussion about supposedly bad
search results from Google (I hadn't noticed, and this is the first I've
seen anyone talk about it), he says this:

[...]

Boy, it sure sounds different when you actually put it in context,
doesn't it? This seems to be Orlowski's stock in trade though - pulling
stuff out of context and making wild assumptions - sometimes he just
makes crap up.
`----

So Google is not really "full".

info_at_1-script_dot_com (AT) foo (DOT) com (www.1-script.com) wrote:

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

titled "Google CEO admits, "We have a huge machine crisis ", a sort of
a hardware-inclined angle at Google's recent indexing problems. I know
some people in this group would say: “what indexing problems?”

No, I not. Look in the archive, I mentioned some time ago that Google
seems to index much slower (normally pages popped up 1-3 days after I
added them to my site, depending on linking, then suddenly it took at
least 5 days or more)

I have the impression that things are a bit better atm, but haven't
checked into it.

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

__/ [ tonnie ] on Thursday 04 May 2006 21:56 \__


www.1-script.com wrote:

Interesting discussion going on on Webmaster's world:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34147.htm

I have writen an article about that, unfortunatly it, for the moment, is
only available in Dutch!



http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/zoe...structuur.html

I was going to use Google for translation (simply because of that American
flag among their icons in GoogleBar), but they do no Dutch.

Use Babelfish instead...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

No direct address because they use temporary URL's and embed all in a
frameset.

Well hm, babelfish... I will have to find some time to translate it
into English and German.


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