Google, php and https

#1

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because there are
some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over https and
have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

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https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/

#2

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

Quote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the
website https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because
there are some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over
https and have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

Why are you serving normal pages over https?
I clicked modem, and hmmm... I think you took "anchortext" a bit too far :-
D.

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#3

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Quote:

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the
website https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because
there are some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over
https and have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

Why are you serving normal pages over https?

Your question was not an answer to my question.
But one reason why I did it is that a https protocoll shows that a website
is the one it says to be.

Quote:

I clicked modem, and hmmm... I think you took "anchortext" a bit too far
:-
D.

What do you mean?

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https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...-i-italien.php

#4

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

Quote:

Does Google not like https and/or php?

PHP is perfectly fine. There is one problem though: if you track the
visitor's session, the session id variable can get added to URL in links
coming from your PHP-generated pages, and that confuses the hell out of
Googlebot;

HTTPS: IMHO Google does not like them and for a good reason: people put
something on a secure website to protect it, not to make it visible to the
entire world!

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#5

"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote

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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
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Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the
website https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because
there are some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over
https and have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

Why are you serving normal pages over https?

Your question was not an answer to my question.
But one reason why I did it is that a https protocoll shows that a
website
is the one it says to be.

I clicked modem, and hmmm... I think you took "anchortext" a bit too far
:-
D.

What do you mean?

While, I wouldn't want to try and think for John....but I think he means
this and I have to agree with him.:-)

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är tillgänglig även med https protokoll.

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Quote:

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

Does Google not like https and/or php?

PHP is perfectly fine. There is one problem though: if you track the
visitor's session, the session id variable can get added to URL in links
coming from your PHP-generated pages, and that confuses the hell out of
Googlebot;

So, to sum it up, Google actually does not like it.
But I also have an alternative html version for many pages, so that should
not be the problem.
Besides there are already some pages which have been indexed by Google which
are over https and with a php extension.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=...+Italien&meta=
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=fakta+Italien&meta=

Quote:

HTTPS: IMHO Google does not like them and for a good reason: people put
something on a secure website to protect it, not to make it visible to the
entire world!

There are some pages on the website
which are password protected and I do not want Google to index them, in
fact.
But there are many other pages which are not.
The use of a https protocoll makes sure ( or at least more sure) for the
user that the site he has accessed is really the one which the site
maintains to be.

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#7

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"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bo7ie.137668$dP1.484890 (AT) newsc (DOT) telia.net...

I clicked modem, and hmmm... I think you took "anchortext" a bit too
far
:-
D.

What do you mean?

While, I wouldn't want to try and think for John....but I think he means
this and I have to agree with him.:-)

At least one page of this website last updated on May 16th, 2005 This
website uses cookies for statistics purposes. You can disactivate them
before you go on, if you want to. Denna webbplats använder sig av cookies
för statistiken om besökarna. Om du vill kan du disaktivera cookies innan
du
fortsätter genom att byta inställingar hos din webbläsare. Denna webbplats
är tillgänglig även med https protokoll.

Do you mean that is a long text?
What was the adress of the page where he read it?
What about all the other pages?

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#8

On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:36:32 GMT, "Luigi Donatello Asero"
<jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because there are
some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over https and
have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

Hi
I am no PHP expert, but are you using Session ID's ? I hear that
these cause problems.
HTH
plh
Paul

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#9

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Quote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:36:32 GMT, "Luigi Donatello Asero"
jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the
website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.
At the same time I have noticed that Google can index both because there
are
some pages which have been indexed which are accessible over https and
have a php extension.
Does Google not like https and/or php?

Hi
I am no PHP expert, but are you using Session ID's ? I hear that
these cause problems.
HTH
plh
Paul

I do not know so much about php, yet, so I am not aware of what Session ID´s
are exactly but I assume that I have not used them unless they are something
which has been installed by my webhost.
Apart from that I have an alternative html version and search engines should
be able to index them anyway, shouldn´t they?
On top of this there are some pages with php extension which have been
indexed
for example https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...-i-italien.php the
problem is that they are not many.
But have a look here.
It seems to be easier to find images by the name of my one-man business
rather than by searching it on the web

http://images.google.se/images?q=Sca...Spa+Gigi&hl=sv

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#10

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

Quote:

I have noticed that Google seems to have given a lower rank to the website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
since I began using the https protocol and php.

Https for non-secure pages is a really really stupid idea. Even though
google does seem to index such pages the protocol is heavy on computer
resources so the googlebot will no doubt index them more slowly.

PHP is not a problem as such.

Your site has almost no value to a search engine. I would address some
of the basic structure, coding and content issues first.

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