Google Page Ranking Questions

If you check out the Starting Point directory their http://www.stpt.com/ has
a PR8
but
http://stpt.com has a PR5

Now first of all, I'm wondering if anyone knows if linking to starting point
and paying their $10 fee to be linked is worth it? Is a link from a PR8
page actually worth paying for?

Also, how does google count a link from a PR8 page to my site if it's a
directory list like Starting Point? Or is the PR all that matters? Anyone
know how it affects my rankings, and by how much?

Finally, will I get credit for the pr8 or pr5 ranking from google on this
particular site.

Thanks,
Arjay

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If you check out the Starting Point directory their
http://www.stpt.com/ has a PR8
but
http://stpt.com has a PR5

Now first of all, I'm wondering if anyone knows if linking to
starting point and paying their $10 fee to be linked is worth it? Is
a link from a PR8 page actually worth paying for?

Also, how does google count a link from a PR8 page to my site if it's
a directory list like Starting Point? Or is the PR all that matters?
Anyone know how it affects my rankings, and by how much?

Finally, will I get credit for the pr8 or pr5 ranking from google on
this particular site.

Thanks,
Arjay

All good questions and I can't answer any of them, but I was wondering where
you saw the $10 fee.
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"Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt (AT) aww-faq (DOT) org> wrote

All good questions and I can't answer any of them, but I was wondering
where
you saw the $10 fee.

LOL. Hope someone can answer them

Here's part of the email I received from starting point along with the link
to where I saw the fee to guarantee placement:
---------------------
you submitted your website to Starting Point. As you know, your site was
featured in the New Sites section of the site. You now have the opportunity
to have your site permanently listed in the directory. You can guarantee
your placement at the top of the Starting Point directory, search engine and
enhance your listing.
http://www.stpt.com/?L=advertise
---------------------

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If you check out the Starting Point directory their
http://www.stpt.com/ has a PR8
but
http://stpt.com has a PR5

Now first of all, I'm wondering if anyone knows if linking to
starting point and paying their $10 fee to be linked is worth it? Is
a link from a PR8 page actually worth paying for?

Also, how does google count a link from a PR8 page to my site if it's
a directory list like Starting Point? Or is the PR all that matters?
Anyone know how it affects my rankings, and by how much?

Finally, will I get credit for the pr8 or pr5 ranking from google on
this particular site.

Thanks,
Arjay

"Toronto Garage Door Company" <atbdoorinc (AT) remove_rogers (DOT) com> wrote in
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If you check out the Starting Point directory their http://www.stpt.com/
has
a PR8
but
http://stpt.com has a PR5

Now first of all, I'm wondering if anyone knows if linking to starting
point
and paying their $10 fee to be linked is worth it?

I say NO! Don't pay!

In all my days of promotion ... I have never paid any search engine or
anywhere for that matter to be included in a directory of any sort.

What I have done is read as much as I can on choosing just the right
keywords .... what would be the best way to create meta tags, the
best way to optimise for search engines and what have you.

I have looked at everything I could look at on the web. From ezines
to ebooks. I have searched this subject until I was blue in the face! I
wish I had the money to where I could hire some top search engine
optimisation company to do the work for me - but, realistically
speaking - such is not the case. So, I am stuck with this dastardly
chore. But, sometimes - doing this work yourself brings somewhat
of a feeling of self satisfaction.

Also, I do employ the works of addweb pro and submitwolf pro to
aid me in my quest of search engine placement. Both software seem
to do a pretty good job. My placement in the engines is not bad.
Could be better I suppose ... However, I do not place all that shabby
on yahoo! or google.

Just be willing to put some effort into it. If you are not that willing to
put
some extra effort into your search engine positioning ... you will probably
not fair so well.

Hope this helped.

Cheers!


Paris

Over 1,700 of the WEBS most Useful Sites - Massive Listing!
http://www.allsitecafe.com

Thank you very much for your advice Paris

I will keep on reading!
Arjay
www.atbdoor.com

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If you check out the Starting Point directory their http://www.stpt.com/
has
a PR8
but
http://stpt.com has a PR5

Now first of all, I'm wondering if anyone knows if linking to starting
point
and paying their $10 fee to be linked is worth it?


I say NO! Don't pay!

In all my days of promotion ... I have never paid any search engine or
anywhere for that matter to be included in a directory of any sort.

What I have done is read as much as I can on choosing just the right
keywords .... what would be the best way to create meta tags, the
best way to optimise for search engines and what have you.

I have looked at everything I could look at on the web. From ezines
to ebooks. I have searched this subject until I was blue in the face! I
wish I had the money to where I could hire some top search engine
optimisation company to do the work for me - but, realistically
speaking - such is not the case. So, I am stuck with this dastardly
chore. But, sometimes - doing this work yourself brings somewhat
of a feeling of self satisfaction.

Also, I do employ the works of addweb pro and submitwolf pro to
aid me in my quest of search engine placement. Both software seem
to do a pretty good job. My placement in the engines is not bad.
Could be better I suppose ... However, I do not place all that shabby
on yahoo! or google.

Just be willing to put some effort into it. If you are not that willing
to
put
some extra effort into your search engine positioning ... you will
probably
not fair so well.

Hope this helped.

Cheers!


Paris

Over 1,700 of the WEBS most Useful Sites - Massive Listing!
http://www.allsitecafe.com

Google treats
http://www.yourwebsite.com

differently to
http://www.youwebsite.com/ with the trailing slash

If more people link to the trailing slash website than a straight .com with
no slash, this could explain the difference in PR

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
free sample templates, tutorials, hints and tips etc
http://www.powerpointbackgrounds.com

Hey TS. Actually the page ranking on that site is only affected when typing
either

http://www.site.com
or
http://site.com

regardless of the following / from what I can tell.

It's wierd though...I don't see how that affects the site's rank since it's
the same page.

Cheers

"TSimmons" <me (AT) NOMORESPAM (DOT) com> wrote

Google treats
http://www.yourwebsite.com

differently to
http://www.youwebsite.com/ with the trailing slash

If more people link to the trailing slash website than a straight .com
with
no slash, this could explain the difference in PR

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
free sample templates, tutorials, hints and tips etc
http://www.powerpointbackgrounds.com

Toronto Garage Door Company wrote:

Actually the page ranking on that site is only affected when
typing either

http://www.site.com
or
http://site.com

regardless of the following / from what I can tell.

It's wierd though...I don't see how that affects the site's rank
since it's the same page.

Maybe the same content but how can you tell it is the same file being served
up? www.example.com is a sub-domain of example.com. Of course they are
usually configured to point to the same resource, and in this case it seems
likely, but, equally, they could point at different servers on opposite
sides of the planet and serve up entirely different content. Googlebot
cannot tell they are the same resource.

--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com

"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked (AT) tbdata (DOT) com> wrote

Toronto Garage Door Company wrote:
Actually the page ranking on that site is only affected when
typing either

http://www.site.com
or
http://site.com

regardless of the following / from what I can tell.

It's wierd though...I don't see how that affects the site's rank
since it's the same page.


Maybe the same content but how can you tell it is the same file being
served
up? www.example.com is a sub-domain of example.com. Of course they are
usually configured to point to the same resource, and in this case it
seems
likely, but, equally, they could point at different servers on opposite
sides of the planet and serve up entirely different content. Googlebot
cannot tell they are the same resource.

Perhaps the case that some sites make the link to www.site.com and other
sites link to site.com?

If more link to www.site.com it gets a higher rank?
--
Charles Sweeney
www.CharlesSweeney.com

Both of you could be right, and are very well likely to be more right than I
could even guess on this issue LOL

So would a link on their pr8 page for $10usd/yr be worth the money. Or does
a single pr8 reciprocal link not do much in terms of it's own weight on your
search position and page ranking?

Cheers

"Charles Sweeney" <me (AT) charlessweeney (DOT) com> wrote

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Toronto Garage Door Company wrote:
Actually the page ranking on that site is only affected when
typing either

http://www.site.com
or
http://site.com

regardless of the following / from what I can tell.

It's wierd though...I don't see how that affects the site's rank
since it's the same page.


Maybe the same content but how can you tell it is the same file being
served
up? www.example.com is a sub-domain of example.com. Of course they are
usually configured to point to the same resource, and in this case it
seems
likely, but, equally, they could point at different servers on opposite
sides of the planet and serve up entirely different content. Googlebot
cannot tell they are the same resource.

Perhaps the case that some sites make the link to www.site.com and other
sites link to site.com?

If more link to www.site.com it gets a higher rank?
--
Charles Sweeney
www.CharlesSweeney.com