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Default Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 11:14 AM






hi all,

all else being equal, is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

also, i've been told that if you have a secondary mirror site with a
diff domain name, it might not be looked at favorably be the search
engines - true?

thanks in advance.


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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 11:27 AM







GoBruins wrote:
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hi all,

all else being equal, is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

also, i've been told that if you have a secondary mirror site with a
diff domain name, it might not be looked at favorably be the search
engines - true?

thanks in advance.
one more question. does the domain make a difference? for example, does
a .com web site get preferential treatment over a .biz?



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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 11:27 AM



"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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hi all,

all else being equal,
The thing is, it isn't.

Quote:
is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?
No.

Quote:
also, i've been told that if you have a secondary mirror site with a
diff domain name, it might not be looked at favorably be the search
engines - true?
Yup. It's sooo simple: the cheaper your content, the less value it has. So
a copy is worthless.

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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 12:01 PM



"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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one more question. does the domain make a difference? for example, does
a .com web site get preferential treatment over a .biz?
A few people I know consider .biz equal to a spammer's site. I probably
wouldn't do business with any .biz site as well. OTOH, this is probably a
very small group of people.

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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 12:05 PM



On 12 Sep 2006 08:14:35 -0700, "GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
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hi all,
Hi ya

Quote:
all else being equal, is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?
No
Google PR has nothing to do with SERPS.

Quote:
also, i've been told that if you have a secondary mirror site with a
diff domain name, it might not be looked at favorably be the search
engines - true?
Never heard that one before, and I don't see why it should be
favorable.

plh
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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 12:29 PM




John Bokma wrote:
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"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

hi all,

all else being equal,

The thing is, it isn't.

is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

No.

thanks for your reply. what's a good way to measure SEO progress? if a
company is promising to help us with SEO, how can we measure their
worth/performance?


Quote:
also, i've been told that if you have a secondary mirror site with a
diff domain name, it might not be looked at favorably be the search
engines - true?

Yup. It's sooo simple: the cheaper your content, the less value it has. So
a copy is worthless.
yes, that's clear to me. but i've read on the web that if you simply
mirror sites, engines like Google will actually hold that agains you,
as a form of 'spamming'.


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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 12:37 PM



"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

hi all,

all else being equal,

The thing is, it isn't.

is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

No.

thanks for your reply. what's a good way to measure SEO progress? if a
company is promising to help us with SEO, how can we measure their
worth/performance?
Increase in traffic coming from search engines. Use your access_log to
measure this. However, this can take quite some time to grow. You might
also notice an increase in visits coming from Googlebot.

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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 01:15 PM




John Bokma wrote:
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"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

hi all,

all else being equal,

The thing is, it isn't.

is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

No.

thanks for your reply. what's a good way to measure SEO progress? if a
company is promising to help us with SEO, how can we measure their
worth/performance?

Increase in traffic coming from search engines. Use your access_log to
measure this. However, this can take quite some time to grow. You might
also notice an increase in visits coming from Googlebot.
sigh - i guess it's the old 'which came first - the chicken or the egg'
dilemma. in order to get a higher ranking, we need to get more traffic
from search engines. but in order for that to happen, we need a higher
ranking.....


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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 01:33 PM



"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

hi all,

all else being equal,

The thing is, it isn't.

is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

No.

thanks for your reply. what's a good way to measure SEO progress? if
a
company is promising to help us with SEO, how can we measure their
worth/performance?

Increase in traffic coming from search engines. Use your access_log to
measure this. However, this can take quite some time to grow. You might
also notice an increase in visits coming from Googlebot.

sigh - i guess it's the old 'which came first - the chicken or the egg'
dilemma. in order to get a higher ranking, we need to get more traffic
from search engines. but in order for that to happen, we need a higher
ranking.....
Yes, true. This means that in the beginning you need a lot of promotion so
people link to your site. Over time you'll get more links and it gets
easier and easier to get a new page at a good position in Google, which
results in more visitors.

In short: Google rewards people who work hard :-D.

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Default Re: Google PR - 09-12-2006 , 01:40 PM




John Bokma wrote:
Quote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:
"GoBruins" <adventureforth (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

hi all,

all else being equal,

The thing is, it isn't.

is Google PR the best single indicator of where
your site will end up in a search result page?

No.

thanks for your reply. what's a good way to measure SEO progress? if
a
company is promising to help us with SEO, how can we measure their
worth/performance?

Increase in traffic coming from search engines. Use your access_log to
measure this. However, this can take quite some time to grow. You might
also notice an increase in visits coming from Googlebot.

sigh - i guess it's the old 'which came first - the chicken or the egg'
dilemma. in order to get a higher ranking, we need to get more traffic
from search engines. but in order for that to happen, we need a higher
ranking.....

Yes, true. This means that in the beginning you need a lot of promotion so
people link to your site. Over time you'll get more links and it gets
easier and easier to get a new page at a good position in Google, which
results in more visitors.

In short: Google rewards people who work hard :-D.
yes, i suppose that's the fair way to do it

we've been talking about traffic from search engines. how about traffic
from direct sources (i.e. someone punches in the URL, clicks from an
email signature). does all that count just as much? or is traffice from
search engines weighted more heavily?

thanks again for your patience.

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