Google indexed a page as domain *and* as IP

Hello

I just found a website in google which is index under it's domain name *and*
under it's IP. Therefore the page is in the index twice. The page is using
postNuke; the index from the IP-address did crawl the postnuke directory
tree instead of the "normal" one it got by crawling the domain.

http://194.209.107.37/postnuke/html/admin.php
http://www.skema.ch/
--> both pointing to the same Website

Is this effect already known and google wants to index these pages twice?
May this be just a temporary effect during google dance? Should I report
this to the google staff?

Maybe a report should be done by somebody else - one of the competitors of
the organisation in question is my customer...

Regards
Peter

"Peter Guhl" <spamme (AT) gmx (DOT) ch> wrote

I just found a website in google which is index under it's domain name
*and*
under it's IP. Therefore the page is in the index twice. The page is using
postNuke; the index from the IP-address did crawl the postnuke directory
tree instead of the "normal" one it got by crawling the domain.

http://194.209.107.37/postnuke/html/admin.php

Which now redirects to http://194.209.107.37/postnuke/html/index.php
although google seems to have cached both ...index.php and ...admin.php

http://www.skema.ch/
--> both pointing to the same Website

Not quite. Google's cached copy of these two pages *is* different. Perhaps
the crawler found the first one, indexed and cached it; www.skema.ch updated
their home page, then the crawler found the 'other' way to the site, checked
it for duplicate content, didn't match it, and so indexed and cached it
'again'.

http://216.239.53.100/search?&q=cach...ml%2Findex.php
and
http://216.239.53.100/search?&q=cach...ml%2Fadmin.php
are duplicate, but
http://216.239.53.100/search?&q=cach...ww.skema.ch%2F
is different

Is this effect already known and google wants to index these pages twice?
May this be just a temporary effect during google dance? Should I report
this to the google staff?

Maybe a report should be done by somebody else - one of the competitors of
the organisation in question is my customer...

If www.skema.ch stop updating their site, then I would expect one of the two
entries in Google's index will disappear fairly quickly. If they update
their site regularly, then this situation may persist for a while...

Why are you so keen to seem them reported for this... could it be because
they're listed above your client in the SERPs? :-) It looks like this
isn't a deliberate attempt to get listed twice, just a side effect of them
using postnuke.

James

James<james (AT) exim (DOT) dyndns.org> 25.06.2003 10:12:18 >>>

"Peter Guhl" <spamme (AT) gmx (DOT) ch> wrote in message
news:bdbh4n$qfl$1 (AT) dc2-03-su-03 (DOT) t-systems.ch...
I just found a website in google which is index under it's domain name
*and* under it's IP.
[...]
--> both pointing to the same Website

Not quite. Google's cached copy of these two pages *is* different.
Perhaps
the crawler found the first one, indexed and cached it; www.skema.ch
updated
their home page, then the crawler found the 'other' way to the site,
checked
it for duplicate content, didn't match it, and so indexed and cached it
'again'.

I see

Maybe a report should be done by somebody else - one of the competitors
of
the organisation in question is my customer...

Why are you so keen to seem them reported for this... could it be because
they're listed above your client in the SERPs? :-)

They are on top of everything - so they are on top of my customer too.
That's
why I had been not a really good one to file any reports if any reports had
been
needed. They had suspected me - as you did...

But I don't like to find the same stuff over and over again while searching
the web.
Therefore I had asked that question anyway and I will - as a user of Google
- be
happy if that situation does not persist; no matter which website it is
(even if it
had been my own!).

It looks like this
isn't a deliberate attempt to get listed twice, just a side effect of
them
using postnuke.

OK.

Regards
Peter

Peter Guhl wrote:

James<james (AT) exim (DOT) dyndns.org> 25.06.2003 10:12:18

"Peter Guhl" <spamme (AT) gmx (DOT) ch> wrote in message
news:bdbh4n$qfl$1 (AT) dc2-03-su-03 (DOT) t-systems.ch...
I just found a website in google which is index under it's domain name
*and* under it's IP.
[...]
--> both pointing to the same Website

Not quite. Google's cached copy of these two pages *is* different.
Perhaps
the crawler found the first one, indexed and cached it; www.skema.ch
updated
their home page, then the crawler found the 'other' way to the site,
checked
it for duplicate content, didn't match it, and so indexed and cached it
'again'.

I see

Maybe a report should be done by somebody else - one of the competitors
of
the organisation in question is my customer...

Why are you so keen to seem them reported for this... could it be because
they're listed above your client in the SERPs? :-)

They are on top of everything - so they are on top of my customer too.
That's
why I had been not a really good one to file any reports if any reports had
been
needed. They had suspected me - as you did...

But I don't like to find the same stuff over and over again while searching
the web.
Therefore I had asked that question anyway and I will - as a user of Google
- be
happy if that situation does not persist; no matter which website it is
(even if it
had been my own!).

It looks like this
isn't a deliberate attempt to get listed twice, just a side effect of
them
using postnuke.

Actually, I'm in the same boat and have been for over 6 months. My site is
indexed as glassgiant.com, veodns.com/~glassgia and
host5.veoweb.net/~glassgia. I haven't found a way to get rid of the last 2.
I've tried putting in absolute URLs on my site, but it did not work. Ideally,
I'd like to return a "Page moved permanently" error if a page is accessed
through either of the 2 non-domain URLs, but several Usenet posts and tech
support queries later, I'm still having the problem.

Good luck,
Shawn

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Shawn Wilson
shawn (AT) glassgiant (DOT) com
http://www.glassgiant.com