Google groups advanced-search seriously broken tonight!!

I've been using http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en for
years, and it's worked fine most of the time, but tonight suddenly it's
totally broken. First, when I have sort-by-date selected in the search
form, it sorts by relevance instead. Second, even after I click on the
by-date button in the results page, so finally they are indeed sorted
as I had originally asked, the format is all screwed up, when I ask for
all 100 most recent articles from a given newsgroup, instead of
one-line items, it gives me huge messy things that are hard to
decipher. Third, to get view by tree is a real pain compared to how it
was just earlier tonight. Did Google install a totally new service
replacing the old service, without bothering to see if anybody wanted
the old service removed, and without bothering to check if the new
service even worked??

tinyurl.com/uh3t wrote:

I've been using http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en for
years, and it's worked fine most of the time, but tonight suddenly
it's totally broken. First, when I have sort-by-date selected in the
search form, it sorts by relevance instead. Second, even after I
click on the by-date button in the results page, so finally they are
indeed sorted as I had originally asked, the format is all screwed
up, when I ask for all 100 most recent articles from a given
newsgroup, instead of one-line items, it gives me huge messy things
that are hard to decipher. Third, to get view by tree is a real pain
compared to how it was just earlier tonight. Did Google install a
totally new service replacing the old service, without bothering to
see if anybody wanted the old service removed, and without bothering
to check if the new service even worked??

Yes, Google has released a beta version of its new Group application
several months ago (and it didn't work at all by then, I'm afraid).
Here it is, but as far as I know there's no merger into the old system
yet so that doesn't really explain the errors you received:
http://groups-beta.google.com/

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Philipp Lenssen wrote:

new service even worked??

Yes, Google has released a beta version of its new Group application
several months ago (and it didn't work at all by then, I'm afraid).
Here it is, but as far as I know there's no merger into the old
system
yet so that doesn't really explain the errors you received:
http://groups-beta.google.com/

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Does anyone know what happened to the search by "date range" under
google's group advanced search?

It's really useful. I can't believe they'd take it out. What's
the point of having an archive with no date search!

Doug

ps Hope this post works. I'm using google's "new and improved"
Beta version

From: "Philipp Lenssen" <info (AT) outer-court (DOT) com
http://groups-beta.google.com/

The advanced-search form I've been using for years:
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
which was totally broken last night, is restored to old working version
this morning. Note: Last night the search for single article by message
ID was totally broken, didn't return any one article, instead returned
the first 25 articles of whatever thread it thought the article was in.
Today search by message ID is back to returning single article that has
that message ID.

I tried your beta URL also just now, and advanced-search by message ID
is totally broken there, returns first 25 articles of thread, so it's
apparent why the old advanced-search form was broken last night, namely
that somebody cross-circuited it into the broken beta by mistake,
causing both forms to give bogus results.