google dance

Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556
<ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:

Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

Is this all over or just on one particular DC? They could be testing
out algos... you have to check things everywhere these days, there are
so many Google now.

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:21 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556
ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:

Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

Is this all over or just on one particular DC? They could be testing
out algos... you have to check things everywhere these days, there are
so many Google now.

I used the google dance tool, yes, it was across google. I do tend to
favor your explanation about testing out algos.

i

__/ [ Ignoramus27556 ] on Wednesday 11 October 2006 00:25 \__

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:05:21 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556
ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:

Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

Is this all over or just on one particular DC? They could be testing
out algos... you have to check things everywhere these days, there are
so many Google now.

I used the google dance tool, yes, it was across google. I do tend to
favor your explanation about testing out algos.

Maybe it's a case of "it's not you, it's me". I doubt 4 sites can
simultaneously make the leap and then backtrack though... so the "me" part
could be Google.

Another possibility is this phentermine story.

Due to actions of a spammer, links were added to my forums that
pointed to spammy phentermine sites.

The drop in google rating coincided with appearance of algebra.com as
#29 in search for phentermine.

I worked hard to write scripts to expunge phentermine ads and other
spams from my forums, and, coincidentally, my ranking came back.

Whether it was a random coincidence, or witness of google "spam
penalty" of sorts, remains to be seen.

i

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556 <ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:

Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

__/ [ Ignoramus534 ] on Thursday 12 October 2006 14:09 \__

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556
ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:
Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

Another possibility is this phentermine story.

Due to actions of a spammer, links were added to my forums that
pointed to spammy phentermine sites.

The drop in google rating coincided with appearance of algebra.com as
#29 in search for phentermine.

I worked hard to write scripts to expunge phentermine ads and other
spams from my forums, and, coincidentally, my ranking came back.

Whether it was a random coincidence, or witness of google "spam
penalty" of sorts, remains to be seen.

That is an interesting possibility which reminds me of the reason why I had
to erase SPAM comments in a rush (a cyclic routine isn't enough as not only
leakage is involved, but also defacing and penalties). At some stage I was
heavily hit in phpBB, until I altogether closed registration. With hundreds
of links to potentially-blacklisted sites, crawlers can only be frustrated
and frown upon your domain. This seems to align with the experience of a
gambling-related site whose Webmatser recently attested to in a.i.s.e.

Returning to my own experience, none of the links were rel="nofollow"ed. That
said, during that period of a couple of months (the spammers clearly had
that scripted) I didn't notice any gains/loses in terms of ranking (referral
volume). I guess it may as well depend on how deep inside your site these
links are included. In any event:

/Spammers should be shot./

Best wishes,

Roy

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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:39:31 +0100, Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Ignoramus534 ] on Thursday 12 October 2006 14:09 \__

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:17:27 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus27556
ignoramus27556 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) 27556.invalid> wrote:
Strange things have been happening.

My website had been #2 in google using search term "algebra", for a
long time.

Then a month or so ago it became #1.

Then, a week ago it became #6, which upset me a great deal.

Now it is back to being #2.

What gives? The field of algebra websites has been quite sleepy...

i

Another possibility is this phentermine story.

Due to actions of a spammer, links were added to my forums that
pointed to spammy phentermine sites.

The drop in google rating coincided with appearance of algebra.com as
#29 in search for phentermine.

I worked hard to write scripts to expunge phentermine ads and other
spams from my forums, and, coincidentally, my ranking came back.

Whether it was a random coincidence, or witness of google "spam
penalty" of sorts, remains to be seen.

That is an interesting possibility which reminds me of the reason why I had
to erase SPAM comments in a rush (a cyclic routine isn't enough as not only
leakage is involved, but also defacing and penalties). At some stage I was
heavily hit in phpBB, until I altogether closed registration. With hundreds
of links to potentially-blacklisted sites, crawlers can only be frustrated
and frown upon your domain. This seems to align with the experience of a
gambling-related site whose Webmatser recently attested to in a.i.s.e.

Returning to my own experience, none of the links were rel="nofollow"ed. That
said, during that period of a couple of months (the spammers clearly had
that scripted) I didn't notice any gains/loses in terms of ranking (referral
volume). I guess it may as well depend on how deep inside your site these
links are included. In any event:

/Spammers should be shot./

I actually considered a spamming career, given that I have a few
related skills, and decided against it. I am glad I did.

i