Fresh content and community sites?

Hello,

I have a site with main landing pages and a blog that points to all the
landing pages in the site. I have three questions from a SERPs viewpoint
that relate to each other:

1. Is there a benefit to publishing blog articles on a site like del.icio.us
that point back to a blog? I ask because all of the internal delicious pages
seem to be PR=0 and I wonder if Google even considers links from delicious
or sites like it.

2. Assume a static landing page. Is there an advantage to posting the latest
blog article on a landing page in order have "fresh" content?

3. There is a Feedburner PHP script that permits the last five blog article
titles to rotate in a box. Would that count as fresh content for a static
page and would it benefit SERPs?

Thanks,

Bob

__/ [ Hymer ] on Friday 03 March 2006 16:25 \__

Hello,

I have a site with main landing pages and a blog that points to all the
landing pages in the site. I have three questions from a SERPs viewpoint
that relate to each other:

1. Is there a benefit to publishing blog articles on a site like
del.icio.us that point back to a blog? I ask because all of the internal
delicious pages seem to be PR=0 and I wonder if Google even considers links
from delicious or sites like it.

It's something I have looked at and raised in the past, the context being
different.

http://del.icio.us/robots.txt

Don't be bitter over it. Spam needs to be prevented. If not using robots.txt,
then using rel="nofollow", which makes pages heavier and gives the wrong
impression to contributers.

2. Assume a static landing page. Is there an advantage to posting the
latest blog article on a landing page in order have "fresh" content?

Yes.

3. There is a Feedburner PHP script that permits the last five blog article
titles to rotate in a box. Would that count as fresh content for a static
page and would it benefit SERPs?

Rotation could possibly lead to penalties, if it appears too superficial. You
could have a go and gauge the effect, but unless you experiment carefully
and deal with large numbers, you will never be able to arrive at a
conclusion.

Thanks,

Bob

Best wishes,

Roy

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I have a site with main landing pages and a blog that points to all the
landing pages in the site. I have three questions from a SERPs viewpoint
that relate to each other:

1. Is there a benefit to publishing blog articles on a site like
del.icio.us that point back to a blog? I ask because all of the internal
delicious pages seem to be PR=0 and I wonder if Google even considers
links
from delicious or sites like it.


It's something I have looked at and raised in the past, the context being
different.

http://del.icio.us/robots.txt

Don't be bitter over it. Spam needs to be prevented. If not using
robots.txt,
then using rel="nofollow", which makes pages heavier and gives the wrong
impression to contributers.


2. Assume a static landing page. Is there an advantage to posting the
latest blog article on a landing page in order have "fresh" content?


Yes.


3. There is a Feedburner PHP script that permits the last five blog
article
titles to rotate in a box. Would that count as fresh content for a static
page and would it benefit SERPs?


Rotation could possibly lead to penalties, if it appears too superficial.
You
could have a go and gauge the effect, but unless you experiment carefully
and deal with large numbers, you will never be able to arrive at a
conclusion.

Hi Roy,

So trying to so something with delicious or flickr would be a waste of time
from an SEO viewpoint. Too bad. Right?

Getting more specific on the other two questions, I have added content from
my blog on my landing pages. These are two methods that give titles of
current news articles from the blog. One is a PHP script which you can see
in the left boxes on a page optimized for "user interface design" at:
http://www.usernomics.com/user-interface-design.html .

The second is right on the blog on the right side which is a Feedburner
script which can be seen at:
http://www.usernomics.com/news/user-...sign-news.html .

While I do rank in the top 5 on Google, do you think either of these are
helping to show new content each day? Do you see a preference between the
two?

Thanks a lot,

Bob

Thanks,

Bob


Best wishes,

Roy

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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:54:51 +0100, Hymer <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net>
wrote:

So trying to so something with delicious or flickr would be a waste of
time
from an SEO viewpoint. Too bad. Right?

I think differently. If you get your urls in delicous or flickr in an
appropriate way, it will get you good attention, traffic, more visitors
and so on. Some of those people will have their own pages, some of them
might get interested in your content. Interested enough to link to it from
their own site. Thus you get backlinks from other places. That is almost
always a good thing, no?


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__/ [ Hymer ] on Saturday 04 March 2006 15:54 \__

I have a site with main landing pages and a blog that points to all the
landing pages in the site. I have three questions from a SERPs viewpoint
that relate to each other:

1. Is there a benefit to publishing blog articles on a site like
del.icio.us that point back to a blog? I ask because all of the internal
delicious pages seem to be PR=0 and I wonder if Google even considers
links
from delicious or sites like it.


It's something I have looked at and raised in the past, the context being
different.

http://del.icio.us/robots.txt

Don't be bitter over it. Spam needs to be prevented. If not using
robots.txt,
then using rel="nofollow", which makes pages heavier and gives the wrong
impression to contributers.


2. Assume a static landing page. Is there an advantage to posting the
latest blog article on a landing page in order have "fresh" content?


Yes.


3. There is a Feedburner PHP script that permits the last five blog
article
titles to rotate in a box. Would that count as fresh content for a static
page and would it benefit SERPs?


Rotation could possibly lead to penalties, if it appears too superficial.
You
could have a go and gauge the effect, but unless you experiment carefully
and deal with large numbers, you will never be able to arrive at a
conclusion.


Hi Roy,

So trying to so something with delicious or flickr would be a waste of time
from an SEO viewpoint. Too bad. Right?

Yes. They will let nothing 'leak' due to personal motives and the threat of
incentive for spamming. GeoURL (several of them) might be the exception, as
well as Web directories if you quality for inclusion.

Getting more specific on the other two questions, I have added content from
my blog on my landing pages. These are two methods that give titles of
current news articles from the blog. One is a PHP script which you can see
in the left boxes on a page optimized for "user interface design" at:
http://www.usernomics.com/user-interface-design.html .

The second is right on the blog on the right side which is a Feedburner
script which can be seen at:
http://www.usernomics.com/news/user-...sign-news.html .

While I do rank in the top 5 on Google, do you think either of these are
helping to show new content each day? Do you see a preference between the
two?

Thanks a lot,

Bob

I get no response (very slow) from the second among the two URL's. I can see
the outcome of the PHP script on the left. It should be crawled and add to
relevance. It also gives the illusion of being dynamic, which helps human
visitors. 'Fresh' content is important, if easily achieved.

[meanwhile, second URL has loaded up fully...]

The second method is less transparent to the human visitor, but it's probably
subjective. Either way, keep employing both unless your intention is to take
the best of the two (or more) and embed it in both sections/sites.

Nice sites, by the way. I will probably re-visit.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Hi Roy,

So trying to so something with delicious or flickr would be a waste of
time
from an SEO viewpoint. Too bad. Right?


Yes. They will let nothing 'leak' due to personal motives and the threat
of
incentive for spamming. GeoURL (several of them) might be the exception,
as
well as Web directories if you quality for inclusion.


Getting more specific on the other two questions, I have added content
from
my blog on my landing pages. These are two methods that give titles of
current news articles from the blog. One is a PHP script which you can
see
in the left boxes on a page optimized for "user interface design" at:
http://www.usernomics.com/user-interface-design.html .

The second is right on the blog on the right side which is a Feedburner
script which can be seen at:
http://www.usernomics.com/news/user-...sign-news.html .

While I do rank in the top 5 on Google, do you think either of these are
helping to show new content each day? Do you see a preference between the
two?

Thanks a lot,

Bob


I get no response (very slow) from the second among the two URL's. I can
see
the outcome of the PHP script on the left. It should be crawled and add to
relevance. It also gives the illusion of being dynamic, which helps human
visitors. 'Fresh' content is important, if easily achieved.

[meanwhile, second URL has loaded up fully...]

The second method is less transparent to the human visitor, but it's
probably
subjective. Either way, keep employing both unless your intention is to
take
the best of the two (or more) and embed it in both sections/sites.

Nice sites, by the way. I will probably re-visit.

Thanks Roy. Hummmm, the scripts loaded immediately for me. Perhaps
Feedburner was having a problem.

So you think that both options would be read as content by the search
engines? I know the first one would be good but I thought the small
Feedburner method might not be readable by the search engines.

Actually, I am just advertising a second blog (Ergonomics In The News) with
that Feedburner script. It is attractive and does not take much space. But
on the main landing pages (not the blog), the primary purpose is new content
even though it is duplicating titles from the blog. I also have it on every
page of the main site and hope the duplication is not viewed negatively by
search engines.

You think I should go as is? Feedburner on the blog for size and the larger
one on the main site for content?

Thanks Again Roy,

Bob

__/ [ Hymer ] on Saturday 04 March 2006 20:02 \__

Hi Roy,

So trying to so something with delicious or flickr would be a waste of
time
from an SEO viewpoint. Too bad. Right?


Yes. They will let nothing 'leak' due to personal motives and the threat
of
incentive for spamming. GeoURL (several of them) might be the exception,
as
well as Web directories if you quality for inclusion.


Getting more specific on the other two questions, I have added content
from
my blog on my landing pages. These are two methods that give titles of
current news articles from the blog. One is a PHP script which you can
see
in the left boxes on a page optimized for "user interface design" at:
http://www.usernomics.com/user-interface-design.html .

The second is right on the blog on the right side which is a Feedburner
script which can be seen at:
http://www.usernomics.com/news/user-...sign-news.html .

While I do rank in the top 5 on Google, do you think either of these are
helping to show new content each day? Do you see a preference between the
two?

Thanks a lot,

Bob


I get no response (very slow) from the second among the two URL's. I can
see
the outcome of the PHP script on the left. It should be crawled and add to
relevance. It also gives the illusion of being dynamic, which helps human
visitors. 'Fresh' content is important, if easily achieved.

[meanwhile, second URL has loaded up fully...]

The second method is less transparent to the human visitor, but it's
probably
subjective. Either way, keep employing both unless your intention is to
take
the best of the two (or more) and embed it in both sections/sites.

Nice sites, by the way. I will probably re-visit.



Thanks Roy. Hummmm, the scripts loaded immediately for me. Perhaps
Feedburner was having a problem.

That seems unlikely, so maybe it's worth measuring performance (without
geographical proximity). See how long it takes page assessment tools to
respond, by requesting that they fetch the URL in its entirety. A few hours
ago, all sites bound to host seemed to have suffered from a DNS
inconsistency, which made the sites inaccessible in some parts of the world.
*sigh* Bad timing. Especially because I have a traffic surge (
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006...ail-than-jail/ ).

So you think that both options would be read as content by the search
engines? I know the first one would be good but I thought the small
Feedburner method might not be readable by the search engines.

Actually, I am just advertising a second blog (Ergonomics In The News) with
that Feedburner script. It is attractive and does not take much space. But
on the main landing pages (not the blog), the primary purpose is new
content even though it is duplicating titles from the blog. I also have it
on every page of the main site and hope the duplication is not viewed
negatively by search engines.

I wish I could refute, but there is no value in mirroring. Au contraire.

You think I should go as is? Feedburner on the blog for size and the larger
one on the main site for content?

Thanks Again Roy,

Bob

It seems fine as it is. Always ask yourself, however:

* Do I add original content to the Web?

* Does it benefit the visitor?

* Is my site penetrable to search engines and is reflected onto SE's in the
same way as human visitors?


Hope it helps,

Roy

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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:54:03 +0000, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

You think I should go as is? Feedburner on the blog for size and the larger
one on the main site for content?

Thanks Again Roy,

Bob


It seems fine as it is. Always ask yourself, however:

* Do I add original content to the Web?

Jumping in here...if you give to the web, the web will give back to
you. Feel the force, ErgoBob.

OBB



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You think I should go as is? Feedburner on the blog for size and the
larger
one on the main site for content?

Thanks Again Roy,

Bob


It seems fine as it is. Always ask yourself, however:

* Do I add original content to the Web?

Jumping in here...if you give to the web, the web will give back to
you. Feel the force, ErgoBob.

OBB

Hey Bill, I always enjoy your one liners. I do feel the force of the big
Google in the sky. My life revolves around the 10th planet.

Bob

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 07:25:08 -0800, "Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net>
wrote:

You think I should go as is? Feedburner on the blog for size and the
larger
one on the main site for content?

Thanks Again Roy,

Bob


It seems fine as it is. Always ask yourself, however:

* Do I add original content to the Web?

Jumping in here...if you give to the web, the web will give back to
you. Feel the force, ErgoBob.

OBB



Hey Bill, I always enjoy your one liners.

Yay! Wouldn't hurt to say so now and again, I feel I'm playing to
myself here some days.

I do feel the force of the big
Google in the sky. My life revolves around the 10th planet.

Bob

10th from where?

BB

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