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08-07-2003
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One of my buds is having his first attempt at a site. He's registered his name and is setting up a site on the space provided. For reasons I dunno, I just know some firms do do things like this, the domain name redirects to the actual site by what I think is called frame forwarding. So you view the source on the site and all you get is the frameset. But, thickening the plot here, in the noframes we find the following; noframes body The website for sonicblossom.com can be found by clicking <a href="http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/">here</a>. sonicblossom.com is registered through <a href="http://easily.co.uk">Easily.co.uk - get web site hosting or domain name registration here</a><br></body /noframes Hmmm. Does this mean that an engine will be able to crawl the link and thus index the site? |
server at http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ (and not
http://www.sonicblosson.com/ ). This means the SERPS will list the
http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ address, not the registered
domain.
Basically, all you've got is a one page actually at
http://www.sonicblossom.com/, and it isn't even an optimised one. You can't
add any more pages or directories...
So, perhaps he should move his site over to someone who actually does web
hosting, not just forwarding?
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Which is a nightmare by the way but he's dyslexic and new to it all so it's early days yet. While we're on the subject, how come some use frame forwarding and some just forward direct, kind of? |
relevant DNS record(s) for the domain directly at the webserver(s). Your
friend's domain has DNS records pointing at a server which doesn't contain
any of his pages - just a single "holding page" which is contains a frameset
pointing at the real webspace.
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I have my Star Trek site hosted by Demon on their server, but I got my domain name through , um, 123 something or other, and used their control panel to direct the domain to my pages on Demon. I view the source after inputting the domain name and there's the source direct, no frames or anything. I don't understand why all sites can't be like this. |
James
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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:tvi4jvcimedo76t9apk8gk6e2su48a9j6d (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... One of my buds is having his first attempt at a site. He's registered his name and is setting up a site on the space provided. For reasons I dunno, I just know some firms do do things like this, the domain name redirects to the actual site by what I think is called frame forwarding. So you view the source on the site and all you get is the frameset. But, thickening the plot here, in the noframes we find the following; noframes body The website for sonicblossom.com can be found by clicking <a href="http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/">here</a>. sonicblossom.com is registered through <a href="http://easily.co.uk">Easily.co.uk - get web site hosting or domain name registration here</a><br></body /noframes Hmmm. Does this mean that an engine will be able to crawl the link and thus index the site? A search engine may follow the link, but the pages are actually hosted on a server at http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ (and not http://www.sonicblosson.com/ ). This means the SERPS will list the http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ address, not the registered domain. Basically, all you've got is a one page actually at http://www.sonicblossom.com/, and it isn't even an optimised one. You can't add any more pages or directories... So, perhaps he should move his site over to someone who actually does web hosting, not just forwarding? |
site, so it seems they are unable or unwilling to point at their own
servers. They don't forward to themsleves, which seems an unlikely
scenario.
Thanks for your observations/advice tho.
BB
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Which is a nightmare by the way but he's dyslexic and new to it all so it's early days yet. While we're on the subject, how come some use frame forwarding and some just forward direct, kind of? Those that "forward direct" aren't forwarding at all - they just point the relevant DNS record(s) for the domain directly at the webserver(s). Your friend's domain has DNS records pointing at a server which doesn't contain any of his pages - just a single "holding page" which is contains a frameset pointing at the real webspace. I have my Star Trek site hosted by Demon on their server, but I got my domain name through , um, 123 something or other, and used their control panel to direct the domain to my pages on Demon. I view the source after inputting the domain name and there's the source direct, no frames or anything. I don't understand why all sites can't be like this. Perhaps this is a case of "if you pay peanuts, get you monkeys"... James |
There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor,
the blacks against the whites, the Federation against the Borg,
or the Democrats versus the Republicans. It's those of us who
aren't complete idiots against those of us who are.
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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:tvi4jvcimedo76t9apk8gk6e2su48a9j6d (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... One of my buds is having his first attempt at a site. He's registered his name and is setting up a site on the space provided. For reasons I dunno, I just know some firms do do things like this, the domain name redirects to the actual site by what I think is called frame forwarding. So you view the source on the site and all you get is the frameset. But, thickening the plot here, in the noframes we find the following; noframes body The website for sonicblossom.com can be found by clicking <a href="http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/">here</a>. sonicblossom.com is registered through <a href="http://easily.co.uk">Easily.co.uk - get web site hosting or domain name registration here</a><br></body /noframes Hmmm. Does this mean that an engine will be able to crawl the link and thus index the site? A search engine may follow the link, but the pages are actually hosted on a server at http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ (and not http://www.sonicblosson.com/ ). This means the SERPS will list the http://basic1.easily.co.uk/011017/053058/ address, not the registered domain. Basically, all you've got is a one page actually at http://www.sonicblossom.com/, and it isn't even an optimised one. You can't add any more pages or directories... So, perhaps he should move his site over to someone who actually does web hosting, not just forwarding? Which is a nightmare by the way but he's dyslexic and new to it all so it's early days yet. While we're on the subject, how come some use frame forwarding and some just forward direct, kind of? Those that "forward direct" aren't forwarding at all - they just point the relevant DNS record(s) for the domain directly at the webserver(s). Your friend's domain has DNS records pointing at a server which doesn't contain any of his pages - just a single "holding page" which is contains a frameset pointing at the real webspace. I have my Star Trek site hosted by Demon on their server, but I got my domain name through , um, 123 something or other, and used their control panel to direct the domain to my pages on Demon. I view the source after inputting the domain name and there's the source direct, no frames or anything. I don't understand why all sites can't be like this. Perhaps this is a case of "if you pay peanuts, get you monkeys"... James Easily.co.uk will do a virtual server package for not much more than the |
end of my first year before transferring my hobby website - they can't
transfer your payment to the new site.
Sealy Haton
'No flash, no midi and proud of it' - 'Wisdom' after five beers...
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sealyhaton (AT) afvs (DOT) co.uk
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