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Default Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-14-2006 , 10:16 AM






Is there any evidence that right navigation affects SERPs due to it
being placed after the content in the markup? Also are there any
usability issues with it, and ways round them?

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-14-2006 , 10:38 AM






On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:16:40 GMT, xyZed <xyzed (AT) xyzed (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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Is there any evidence that right navigation affects SERPs due to it
being placed after the content in the markup?
None that I can recall hearing about. There was a school of thought
suggesting that being placed after the content was the best place for
it.

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Also are there any
usability issues with it, and ways round them?
Arguably. Perhaps if the reader were, before being introduced to the
page content, first presented with a link saying "main menu" that
directed to the navigation menu, that would address any issues.

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-14-2006 , 11:23 AM



On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:16:40 +0100, xyZed <xyzed (AT) xyzed (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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Is there any evidence that right navigation affects SERPs due to it
being placed after the content in the markup? Also are there any
usability issues with it, and ways round them?
Right navigation has nothing to do with the order in the markup. Visit
chembuddy to see left navigation being put after content.

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-14-2006 , 12:24 PM



__/ [Borek] on Tuesday 14 February 2006 16:23 \__

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:16:40 +0100, xyZed <xyzed (AT) xyzed (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Is there any evidence that right navigation affects SERPs due to it
being placed after the content in the markup? Also are there any
usability issues with it, and ways round them?

Right navigation has nothing to do with the order in the markup. Visit
chembuddy to see left navigation being put after content.

Best,
Borek
I'd second that. If you build your site properly, the location of navigation
bars, menus and the like is not dependent upon the order in which they are
included in the markup.

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-14-2006 , 03:03 PM



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› I'd second that. If you build your site properly, the location of navigation
› bars, menus and the like is not dependent upon the order in which they are
› included in the markup.
How do you do that? When I put my floated right nav column before the
content in my markup, then the content only appears after the end of
the nav column.

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-15-2006 , 03:28 AM



Hi,

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How do you do that? When I put my floated right nav column before the
content in my markup, then the content only appears after the end of
the nav column.
The key to success is the Box Model. If you would use DIVs instead of
TABLEs to divide your layout parts you could do almost everything with
them applying accurate CSS positioning. See http://www.csszengarden.com
for very nice examples.

Tomek


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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-15-2006 , 04:19 AM



On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:28:29 +0100, TomekK
<tomekk.nospam.delete__it (AT) amsnet (DOT) pl> wrote:

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TomekK <tomekk.nospam.delete__it (AT) amsnet (DOT) pl
Spammers will eat amsnet.pl bandwidth trying to send something to you.
Modify domain to impossible one - like amsnet.pl.dupa

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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-15-2006 , 04:59 AM




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Spammers will eat amsnet.pl bandwidth trying to send something to you.
Modify domain to impossible one - like amsnet.pl.dupa
Dzieki ;-)

TK


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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-15-2006 , 07:32 AM



On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:59:09 +0100, TomekK
<tomekk.nospam.delete__it (AT) amsnet (DOT) pl.remove> wrote:

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Spammers will eat amsnet.pl bandwidth trying to send something to you.
Modify domain to impossible one - like amsnet.pl.dupa

Dzieki ;-)

TK
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Default Re: Is floated right navigation considered bad or OK? - 02-16-2006 , 10:20 AM



There is circumstantial evidence that on Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:28:29
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› The key to success is the Box Model. If you would use DIVs instead of
› TABLEs to divide your layout parts you could do almost everything with
› them applying accurate CSS positioning.
I suspect the answer is very simple but it eludes me :-) I don't have
a single table on my site. I have the content DIV floated left and the
Nav column DIV floated right. But if I place the Nav column "before"
the content DIV, then the content doesn't display until the bottom of
the Nav DIV.




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