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Default What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-19-2004 , 09:11 PM






Hi!
All of a sudden my new software Your Voice Reminder
http://friendly-ware.com/yvr/index.html
that already hade PageRank about 30 got zero PageRank in Google.

Also my site home page (http://friendly-ware.com) that had PageRank
about 40 now has 0.

I even cannot find " Your Voice Reminder" in Google though I see in
Google results for the download sites with my program.

There was no intentional spam and I can only guess 4 reasons.

Could you tell me what from the 4 reasons below is most probable (if
any).

1. Many links are JavaScript generated and Google does not see them
(though there are few real links and navigation without JavaScript is
possible)

2. Site home page (http://friendly-ware.com) is all about Dynamic Time
Management but Dynamic Time Management not mentioned explicitly in
some product pages (though they are about it after all).

3. I had pay per click company and it is a some dirty trick form
competitors.

4. I made a special entry page for Pay Per Click company "Gift Idea"
with the list of links like "Your Voice Reminder as Gift Idea for
her", "… for him", "… for students"… All these links pointed to the
pages with real explanation (no separate cloaking for Google).

I would greatly appreciate your help since I really do not know what
is the reason.

Vadim Motorine.

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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-20-2004 , 12:52 AM






On 19 Jul 2004 18:11:43 -0700, Vadim <friendlyware (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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... my site home page (http://friendly-ware.com) that had PageRank
about 40 now has 0.
Holy Moley. PR 40??? That's 4 times what Google has!


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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-20-2004 , 02:33 AM



On 19 Jul 2004 18:11:43 -0700, friendlyware (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Vadim) wrote:

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Hi!
All of a sudden my new software Your Voice Reminder
http://friendly-ware.com/yvr/index.html
that already hade PageRank about 30 got zero PageRank in Google.

Also my site home page (http://friendly-ware.com) that had PageRank
about 40 now has 0.

I even cannot find " Your Voice Reminder" in Google though I see in
Google results for the download sites with my program.

There was no intentional spam and I can only guess 4 reasons.

Could you tell me what from the 4 reasons below is most probable (if
any).

1. Many links are JavaScript generated and Google does not see them
(though there are few real links and navigation without JavaScript is
possible)
This wouldn't get you banned, it would simply mean most of your pages
wouldn't be indexed unless you put in an alternative way of linking to
the pages. A site map would seem to be a good idea.

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2. Site home page (http://friendly-ware.com) is all about Dynamic Time
Management but Dynamic Time Management not mentioned explicitly in
some product pages (though they are about it after all).
Perhaps you could include the phrase a few times. You don't have to
belabour the point, just , you know, mention it casually, like.

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3. I had pay per click company and it is a some dirty trick form
competitors.
I personally think the whole PPC industry is dirty. One day it'll get
found out and I'll be saying "Told you so!" so it's unlikely to be
that.

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4. I made a special entry page for Pay Per Click company "Gift Idea"
with the list of links like "Your Voice Reminder as Gift Idea for
her", "… for him", "… for students"… All these links pointed to the
pages with real explanation (no separate cloaking for Google).
I don't see a problem there. It's not like you made an entry page
called "See Kylie in her knickers!" that led to your Voice software.

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I would greatly appreciate your help since I really do not know what
is the reason.

Vadim Motorine.
Me neither. Sort out everything in the head though. You should have
the <title> tag first, then a description tag, then a keywords tag,
which for some reason you have twice anyway, then you should cut the
author tag and the robots tag.

I'd give the site a month or so to recover. Google does these odd
things from time to time. I can't see any reason to penalise your site
at all. I rather doubt that you had PR of 40 though; the maximum is
10.

BB


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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-20-2004 , 09:34 PM



Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Holy Moley. PR 40??? That's 4 times what Google has!
I meant 40% or 4/10. Sorry, that I forgot to add %

Vadim


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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-20-2004 , 09:45 PM



Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote


First, thanks a lot for your answers.

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Me neither. Sort out everything in the head though. You should have
the <title> tag first, then a description tag, then a keywords tag,
which for some reason you have twice anyway
Twice because one is http-equiv. In old days it meant that crawlers
could get if faster but nowdays it is probably does not matter.

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then you should cut the
author tag and the robots tag.
I am not sure for ROBOTS tag. Google directly reccommends it (with
NOINDEX)if a person would like to have a page not indexed. So Google
use it.

Why do you think it should be cut?

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I rather doubt that you had PR of 40 though; the maximum is
10.
It's my missprint. I should write 40% or 4/10. Sorry.

Vadim.


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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-21-2004 , 01:56 AM



On 20 Jul 2004 18:45:59 -0700, friendlyware (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Vadim) wrote:

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Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote


First, thanks a lot for your answers.

Me neither. Sort out everything in the head though. You should have
the <title> tag first, then a description tag, then a keywords tag,
which for some reason you have twice anyway

Twice because one is http-equiv. In old days it meant that crawlers
could get if faster but nowdays it is probably does not matter.

then you should cut the
author tag and the robots tag.

I am not sure for ROBOTS tag. Google directly reccommends it (with
NOINDEX)if a person would like to have a page not indexed. So Google
use it.
Because you aren't using it to tell any spiders to not index or not
follow. You're using it to say index and follow. Which spiders will do
anyway. It's what they do. So it's superfluous and shouldn't be there.

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Why do you think it should be cut?
See above.

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I rather doubt that you had PR of 40 though; the maximum is
10.

It's my missprint. I should write 40% or 4/10. Sorry.
Hah!

BB

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Vadim
 
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Default Re: What Google punish me for?! Help to figure out, please. - 07-21-2004 , 08:21 PM



Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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On 20 Jul 2004 18:45:59 -0700, friendlyware (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Vadim) wrote:

I am not sure for ROBOTS tag. Google directly reccommends it (with
NOINDEX)if a person would like to have a page not indexed. So Google
use it.

Because you aren't using it to tell any spiders to not index or not
follow. You're using it to say index and follow. Which spiders will do
anyway. It's what they do. So it's superfluous and shouldn't be there.

You are probably right. Thanks
Vadim
http://friendly-ware.com


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