Domain Name Backordering

I am interested in snagging a domain name that comes up for renewal
next month. The owner registered it for a yaer and never put up a
page. so I doubt that he will renew.

Where is the best place to get Domain Name Backordering?

Does it make sense to have a couple of services do this at the same time?

https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/...xplanation.asp
says this:

: What is Domain Name Backordering?
:
: If you "backorder" this name, we will ATTEMPT to grab it
: and to register it on your behalf, if and when it expires
: and once again becomes available.
:
: The low $25.00 backorder cost includes the registration
: fee, plus automatic monitoring and email alerts on changes
: to the Registrar, Status, Expiration Date, and Name
: Servers. Your domain backorder fee can be re-assigned to
: other names as often as you like, until you are successful
: in acquiring a domain name.
:
: You also have the option of making your backorder private
: -- which means your personal identifying information
: (name, phone number, email and home addresses) is shielded
: from public exposure in the WHOIS directory from the very
: moment the backordered domain is successfully acquired.
:
: Please understand that a backorder does not guarantee that
: you will acquire the domain name being backordered. The
: domain name you are backordering may be renewed by its
: current owner and not become available or we may be
: unsuccessful in our attempts to grab it and register it on
: your behalf.

"A Nony Mouse" <anonymous (AT) anonymous (DOT) anonymous> wrote

I am interested in snagging a domain name that comes up for renewal
next month. The owner registered it for a yaer and never put up a
page. so I doubt that he will renew.

Where is the best place to get Domain Name Backordering?

Does it make sense to have a couple of services do this at the same time?

https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/...xplanation.asp
says this:

: What is Domain Name Backordering?
:
: If you "backorder" this name, we will ATTEMPT to grab it
: and to register it on your behalf, if and when it expires
: and once again becomes available.
:
: The low $25.00 backorder cost includes the registration
: fee, plus automatic monitoring and email alerts on changes
: to the Registrar, Status, Expiration Date, and Name
: Servers. Your domain backorder fee can be re-assigned to
: other names as often as you like, until you are successful
: in acquiring a domain name.
:
: You also have the option of making your backorder private
: -- which means your personal identifying information
: (name, phone number, email and home addresses) is shielded
: from public exposure in the WHOIS directory from the very
: moment the backordered domain is successfully acquired.
:
: Please understand that a backorder does not guarantee that
: you will acquire the domain name being backordered. The
: domain name you are backordering may be renewed by its
: current owner and not become available or we may be
: unsuccessful in our attempts to grab it and register it on
: your behalf.

www.godaddy.com


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www.seo-highrankings.com wrote:

www.godaddy.com

And www.snapnames.com, www.pool.com etc

From my limited experience of trying to buy expiring domains I would say
it's best to register with several services if you *really* want the domain
and it's likely to be popular.

Also, have you tried to get in contact with the current owner and see if
they'd sell right now for a minimal fee?

"A Nony Mouse" <anonymous (AT) anonymous (DOT) anonymous> wrote

I am interested in snagging a domain name that comes up for renewal
next month. The owner registered it for a yaer and never put up a
page. so I doubt that he will renew.

I've gone with GoDaddy.com before in the past and had success in getting
domain names when other people have used other registrars...

But I would say you might want to investigate the domain name some before
you go spending money to backorder it... just because somebody doesn't have
a website up doesn't mean its not being used

Uses I can think of, that wouldn't need a website, would include:
- Email
- Selling
- Blocking somebody else from using it
- Waiting to develop the site

Some things you might do to check out a domain would be:
- Try pinging the mail.______.___ to see if they have a mail server set up
- Send an email to the info (AT) ______ (DOT) ___ email address and see if it bounces
back to you
- Check out the whois information on a few different sites to make sure you
are getting all the information you can.
- Check the domain expiration date on a few different whois servers (for one
of my domain names... its registered until 2008 at GoDaddy and if you do a
whois there it says until 2008... but if you go to networksolutions.com it
says it expires in 2004 and somebody has already bought the backorder for
the name there)
- Once you have the name of the registrant (if available) find out as much
as you can about them (ie: doing a reverse phone number lookup in
superpages.com... or if the contact email is john_smith (AT) abccorp (DOT) com then you
might check out what Abc Corp does and if its related to the domain name).
Look for the obvious here too... if the site you are after was
flowersbyjim.com and the registrant's name is Jim Smith and the phone number
resolves to a florist shop... then you could guess that he is probably using
it for email or future needs
- Search eBay and sites where domain names are commonly sold to see if the
domain name (or the registrant) are listed or regulars... that might
indicate that the domain name is for sale and will be reregistered

Augustus wrote:

- Try pinging the mail.______.___ to see if they have a mail server

Done. No mail server.

Send an email to the info (AT) ______ (DOT) ___ email address and see if it bounces

Sent one to info@domainame, postmaster@domainame, root@domainame,
domainame@domainame, and various forms of the owner's name (AT) domainame (DOT)
All bounced with "no server" errors.

- Check out the whois information on a few different sites to make
sure you are getting all the information you can.

- Check the domain expiration date on a few different whois servers (for one
of my domain names... its registered until 2008 at GoDaddy and if you do a
whois there it says until 2008... but if you go to networksolutions.com it
says it expires in 2004 and somebody has already bought the backorder for
the name there)

Tried seven different WHOIS servers, all gave the same answer.

- Search eBay and sites where domain names are commonly sold to see if the
domain name (or the registrant) are listed or regulars... that might
indicate that the domain name is for sale and will be reregistered

Done. Not for sale.

The nature of the name is such that I am sure that nobody wants it except
me. That's why I didn't just contact the owner and ask him to sell it.
That would tip him off to there being someone who wants it. It has a lot
of commercial value to me - I am going to open a new business with the
name. I was able to get the .com, .org and .us versions - all were open
- last week, but I found the soon-to-be-expired .net version was taken.

I am going to try to grab it when it expires with www.godaddy.com
www.snapnames.com and www.pool.com. Are there any others I can try?
It will be interesting to see who wins the race...

A Nony Mouse wrote:

The nature of the name is such that I am sure that nobody wants it
except me. That's why I didn't just contact the owner and ask him to
sell it. That would tip him off to there being someone who wants it.

For the sake of $8 a year, he may renew it forever, even if he doesn't
use it . If you offer him $250, then yes he'll probably sell it.
I generally don't even reply to offers of less than $150.

It has a lot of commercial value to me - I am going to open a new
business with the name. I was able to get the .com, .org and .us
versions - all were open - last week, but I found the
soon-to-be-expired .net version was taken.

He can also see the other extensions are taken, so might hold on to it.
If you have the .com, the .net isn't worth much to you though is it?

I am going to try to grab it when it expires with www.godaddy.com
www.snapnames.com and www.pool.com. Are there any others I can try?
It will be interesting to see who wins the race...

Just before any of my domains expire, I check the backordering systems
like snapnames etc to see if anyone is poised ready to grab it, and if so
I always renew and wait for an email offer....

--
Mike

Mike Redrobe wrote:

For the sake of $8 a year, he may renew it forever, even if he doesn't
use it . If you offer him $250, then yes he'll probably sell it.
I generally don't even reply to offers of less than $150.

He can also see the other extensions are taken, so might hold on to it.
If you have the .com, the .net isn't worth much to you though is it?

Just before any of my domains expire, I check the backordering systems
like snapnames etc to see if anyone is poised ready to grab it, and if so
I always renew and wait for an email offer....

I am betting that he isn't as smart as you are. If I am wrong and he renews,
I will make a cash offer after the renewal.

Are www.godaddy.com www.snapnames.com and www.pool.com the only games in
town, or are there other services that do the same thing?

On Sat, 08 May 2004 08:43:03 GMT, "Mike Redrobe" <mike (AT) redrobe (DOT) net>
wrote:

Just before any of my domains expire, I check the backordering systems
like snapnames etc to see if anyone is poised ready to grab it, and if so
I always renew and wait for an email offer....

How do you check the above without back ordering a domain first?

Not interested in grabbing expired domains, but would like to know if
anyone wants any of mine.

David
--
http://www.seo-serps.com

In article <109o3rh3qnijec3 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, A Nony Mouse says...

I am interested in snagging a domain name that comes up for renewal
next month. The owner registered it for a yaer and never put up a
page. so I doubt that he will renew.

Where is the best place to get Domain Name Backordering?

Does it make sense to have a couple of services do this at the same time?

https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/...xplanation.asp
says this:

: What is Domain Name Backordering?
:
: If you "backorder" this name, we will ATTEMPT to grab it
: and to register it on your behalf, if and when it expires
: and once again becomes available.
:
: The low $25.00 backorder cost includes the registration
: fee, plus automatic monitoring and email alerts on changes
: to the Registrar, Status, Expiration Date, and Name
: Servers. Your domain backorder fee can be re-assigned to
: other names as often as you like, until you are successful
: in acquiring a domain name.
:
: You also have the option of making your backorder private
: -- which means your personal identifying information
: (name, phone number, email and home addresses) is shielded
: from public exposure in the WHOIS directory from the very
: moment the backordered domain is successfully acquired.
:
: Please understand that a backorder does not guarantee that
: you will acquire the domain name being backordered. The
: domain name you are backordering may be renewed by its
: current owner and not become available or we may be
: unsuccessful in our attempts to grab it and register it on
: your behalf.

The odds are slim that you'll get the name if it's due up in a month. First of
all, if it expires in a month, you'll have about another 2months before it's
actually released as there is a hold period and then another time lapse before
it can be purchased.
However, the odds are high that it's already been backordred by something like
snapnames in which case you'll not get it.
But...nothing ventured nothing gained is how I would look at it.

www.seo-serps.com wrote:

How do you check the above without back ordering a domain first?

Not interested in grabbing expired domains, but would like to know if
anyone wants any of mine.

1. Go to www.snapnames.com
2. Type in your domain name
3. Enter the code from the image
4. Hit the search button

If the column titled "SnapBack" in the results page has an empty checkbox
then you are able to back order it. With SnapNames only one person can
backorder a domain, so if it is already backordered it will say "Taken"
instead of having a checkbox.

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The Electric Toolbox - http://www.electrictoolbox.com/